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No more fire in the kitchen: Cities are banning natural gas in homes to save the planet
Salinas Californian ^ | Nov. 10, 2019 | Elizabeth Weise

Posted on 11/11/2019 6:17:22 AM PST by artichokegrower

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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Then the little woman just ain’t making it right.


41 posted on 11/11/2019 7:16:07 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

No can do if there are spare the air days. No burning allowed.


42 posted on 11/11/2019 7:19:28 AM PST by moviefan8
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To: ScottinVA

Winner!!!


43 posted on 11/11/2019 7:20:47 AM PST by moviefan8
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To: artichokegrower

To convert from a gas stove to an electric one means the installation of a special 220 Service. And so, there is “more” electricity going to the house.

And where does that electricity come from?

BTW, I live in a trailer with a propane stove. I only need a tank-full of gas delivered every couple of years.

My electric bill is so low, the company had to impose a “minimum”, as did the propane company.

They can have my propane stove when they pry it from my cold dead hands.


44 posted on 11/11/2019 7:21:36 AM PST by left that other site (For America to have CONFIDENCE in our future, we must have PRIDE in our HISTORY... DJT)
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To: artichokegrower

Compound this with California Green Power 2045. Could get interesting...

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/11/08/pathway-2045-edisons-roadmap-to-energy-hell-1/

 https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/11/09/pathway-2045-2/


45 posted on 11/11/2019 7:21:51 AM PST by MulberryDraw
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To: artichokegrower

We have the same nonsense going on here in Western Washington. They are not allowing he gas companies to extend their lines. No new “carbon” infrastructure. Of course the price of electricity which used to be dirt cheap here because of hydroelectric has gone up over five times since we first bought our house. This is of course to pay for all the “green” energy projects. We also have the wood stove ban here.


46 posted on 11/11/2019 7:22:11 AM PST by fireman15
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To: ClearCase_guy
Natural gas is really a very clean fuel.

It is also dangerous potentially in a home, from the perspective of asphyxiation and explosions, or accidentally catching fire. There aren't too many people dying of those things from electric ovens.

Let's say your electric range costs $200 more per year than the gas range. That's not an immaterial amount of money. However, you've de-risked your home and family of junior accidentally leaving the gas on all night or some rare but not-uncommon explosion.

It all comes down to your utility curve, and a full review of costs and benefits. And now...not only do I want people off my lawn, but I want them out of my kitchen, too.

47 posted on 11/11/2019 7:23:25 AM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^s)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Stupid is, what stupid does. That should be the new motto for Kommiefornia.


48 posted on 11/11/2019 7:25:50 AM PST by MGunny (se)
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To: dfwgator; Ruy Dias de Bivar

Actually, a cook stove on Propane is a LOT cheaper than an electric stove, even with the cost of propane what it is.

Expensive for generators maybe, but very cheap for just cook stoves.


49 posted on 11/11/2019 7:27:57 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: artichokegrower

A few years back, I had a gas refrigerator.
I wonder if they still make them.


50 posted on 11/11/2019 7:28:18 AM PST by BuffaloJack ("Security does not exist in nature. Everything has risk." Henry Savage)
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To: artichokegrower

The last two nuclear plants have been shut down.
No Coal plants exist in CA.
There are 3-4 natural gas plants in CA.

I wonder how much power CA is buying from NV-OR-AZ to meet demand.


51 posted on 11/11/2019 7:32:19 AM PST by Zathras
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52 posted on 11/11/2019 7:36:08 AM PST by conservativeimage (A Time For War?)
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To: left that other site

Yep, isn’t “camping” great? We are the same way, Propane serves us very well. It is amazing how much cooking you can do on a propane stove compared to an electric per dollar. Propane stoves even use half as much gas flow as a natural gas stove for the same BTU output. We can put a five gallon can on our coach and if we just use the cook stove we can make it almost three months. That is a cost of only about $4 a month. But in turn, an electric water heater is cheaper to run than a propane hot water heater.


53 posted on 11/11/2019 7:39:32 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Zathras

It is not stupid, it is a purpose driven attempt to harm American economic strength.


54 posted on 11/11/2019 7:40:04 AM PST by Geoffrey
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To: DoodleBob

Anybody who cares about his kitchen wants it to have a gas burning stove. Has anyone EVER seen a professional chef using an electric stove?

Anybody who wants hot water in the winter will be disappointed if he relies on electric power — unless he makes a very expensive conversion to an on-demand unit.

As for safety — get real. You must have never lived with gas appliances, to be possessed by such an irrational dread.


55 posted on 11/11/2019 7:40:35 AM PST by Romulus
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To: Mr. Lucky

Too gooie...


56 posted on 11/11/2019 7:41:58 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: Openurmind
an electric water heater is cheaper to run than a propane hot water heater.

Which is fine for those who don't want hot water.

57 posted on 11/11/2019 7:42:58 AM PST by Romulus
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To: BuffaloJack

Yes they do... they are not huge double doors but they make fairly large ones for RVs. All you have to do is change the orifice from a propane to a natural gas orifice in the controller. some are 3 way, 110v, 12v, and gas LP or NG.


58 posted on 11/11/2019 7:43:43 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Openurmind

You are right about the Propane stove using less gas to do the same cooking. A propane stove even has to have smaller orfices for the gas to keep the flames below WW2-Flame-Thrower Level.

I found THAT out the hard way! LOL!


59 posted on 11/11/2019 7:43:59 AM PST by left that other site (For America to have CONFIDENCE in our future, we must have PRIDE in our HISTORY... DJT)
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To: eyeamok
Considering there is NO Sustained Alternative Power, which means even during Peak Solar and Wind generation, THE GAS TURBINES ARE STILL RUNNING, I would say we Get NOTHING from so called Alternative Energy.

Modern natgas generators can throttle up and down, responding to demand. But yeah, it is foolhardy to utilize wind and solar as more than minor supplements to the grid.

60 posted on 11/11/2019 7:46:07 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (BLACK LIVES MAGA)
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