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Worse than you thought: inside the secret Fitzgerald probe the Navy doesn’t want you to read
Navy Times ^ | Jan. 14, 2019, 8:43 AM | Geoff Ziezulewicz,

Posted on 01/18/2019 4:28:53 PM PST by daniel1212

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To: Sequoyah101

She’s disabled from a Humvee roll over from an IUD near miss in Iraq. She’s going to school. She is conservative and I’m sure she is monitoring the situation through friends who are still active duty.

Friggin Colonels and flag officers playing PC politician to advance their careers is one major problem.


61 posted on 01/19/2019 7:38:54 AM PST by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Sequoyah101

IED , not IUD


62 posted on 01/19/2019 7:39:54 AM PST by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: PIF

IED, not IUD. Sorry.


63 posted on 01/19/2019 7:40:43 AM PST by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: centurion316
I have read 3 or 4 Navy Times articles on this subject and no pictures of the female officers have surfaced. Were any of them wearing Water Wings? 30 year MustANG
64 posted on 01/19/2019 9:31:22 AM PST by grwcfl537
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To: grwcfl537

Consider the source. The problem is not female officer per se, but the substandard training and lack of performance standards. My own experience is Army, but that experience told me that women was treated differently at each step of the way. I knew female officers who were as good as any I ever knew in every respect except physical strength, and they were assigned to branches where that was not essential (not true these days). Most were average as were most male officers. But, they also made up a larger proportion of substandard officers. That difference was noticeable, but was ignored and in fact, actively suppressed. Navy deficiencies in surface warfare officers, especially in seamanship, applied to all junior officers, but was more apparent among female officers. It was only a question of time before it showed up in mission performance.


65 posted on 01/19/2019 9:52:43 AM PST by centurion316
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To: laplata

“Calling doctor Freud...”


66 posted on 01/19/2019 9:56:06 AM PST by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: PIF

So, in the Ranger class that contained two women, not a single man failed?


67 posted on 01/19/2019 11:02:06 AM PST by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It's been found hard and not tried')
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To: ro_dreaming

women not men.


68 posted on 01/19/2019 11:20:53 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

You’re right. I was 23 she was 21. Lol


69 posted on 01/19/2019 11:42:23 AM PST by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: laplata

Of course. I knew what you meant. Sorry to know that.


70 posted on 01/19/2019 12:41:14 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just hava few days that don't suck.)
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To: Sequoyah101

Thanks.


71 posted on 01/19/2019 1:07:14 PM PST by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: PIF

The ranger class had 2 women, only?

There were not men in the class?

Never heard or seen of ANY ranger class with 2 people in it before


72 posted on 01/19/2019 2:29:06 PM PST by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It's been found hard and not tried')
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To: Midwesterner53
The women who were in charge of different parts of the ship that night were pissed at each other and not talking

Scoured the article for evidence of your claim. Found none. Were you speculating? If so, it's funny. If not, please don't post opinion as fact.
73 posted on 01/19/2019 2:49:05 PM PST by LanaTurnerOverdrive ("I've done things in my life I'm not proud of. And the things I am proud of are disgusting.")
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To: ro_dreaming

Quit trolling


74 posted on 01/19/2019 2:50:01 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: LanaTurnerOverdrive

It’s in previous explanations of what happened. I think it is described as they were not speaking to one another or something like that.


75 posted on 01/19/2019 2:53:24 PM PST by petitfour (APPEAL TO HEAVEN)
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To: centurion316
You don’t get to define his own concept of success, and more importantly, what the Navy says represents success. This is a problem throughout all of the services, and through society at large. Achievement and competence is no longer the metrics of success. Now, hiring actions, promotions, bonuses, selection for positions is based on social goals including diversity and identity groups.

And the military cannot define my Biblical concept of success, and what you so aptly described not that, but is apparently all too much the case in the Navy, and tragically so.

76 posted on 01/19/2019 3:41:41 PM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: LanaTurnerOverdrive

That was not the only article I have read on the subject. Expand your horizons.


77 posted on 01/19/2019 5:55:53 PM PST by Midwesterner53
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To: LanaTurnerOverdrive

And no, I was not speculating.


78 posted on 01/19/2019 5:57:14 PM PST by Midwesterner53
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To: daniel1212

Utterly damning. I would ask what the hell has happened to my Navy but I know perfectly well what the hell has happened to it. It was only a matter of time before it started getting people killed, and between this fiasco and the McCain we have 17 young sailors dead. This sort of job is a meritocracy, and if it isn’t supported as such by command it becomes it when people die. The Navy has been systematically poisoned by people with priorities other than operational effectiveness, and unfortunately some of them are wearing uniforms, and even more unfortunately they aren’t the ones doing the dying.


79 posted on 01/19/2019 6:20:43 PM PST by Billthedrill
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And the military cannot define my Biblical concept of success

Are you suggesting that the military is obligated to adopt your Biblical concept of success? In fact they cannot do so. We do not have an established religion in this country, but we certainly do have the freedom to exercise our own religious views.

80 posted on 01/19/2019 6:27:03 PM PST by centurion316
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