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James Watson Won’t Stop Talking About Race
New York Times ^ | January 1, 2019 | Amy Harmon

Posted on 01/01/2019 10:25:48 AM PST by reaganaut1

It has been more than a decade since James D. Watson, a founder of modern genetics, landed in a kind of professional exile by suggesting that black people are intrinsically less intelligent than whites.

In 2007, Dr. Watson, who shared a 1962 Nobel Prize for describing the double-helix structure of DNA, told a British journalist that he was “inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa” because “all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours, whereas all the testing says, not really.”

Moreover, he added, although he wished everyone were equal, “people who have to deal with black employees find this not true.”

Dr. Watson’s comments reverberated around the world, and he was forced to retire from his job as chancellor of the Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory on Long Island, although he retains an office there.

He apologized publicly and “unreservedly,’’ and in later interviews he sometimes suggested that he had been playing the provocateur — his trademark role — or had not understood that his comments would be made public.

Ever since, Dr. Watson, 90, has been largely absent from the public eye. His speaking invitations evaporated. In 2014, he became the first living Nobelist to sell his medal, citing a depleted income from having been designated a “nonperson.’’

But his remarks have lingered. They have been invoked to support white supremacist views, and scientists routinely excoriate Dr. Watson when his name surfaces on social media.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bellcurve; helixmakemineadouble; iq; jameswatson; race
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What does James Watson know about genetics? /s

It's not as if James Watson was the first scientist to say there were racial differences in IQ. Arthur Jensen, a psychology professor at Berkeley, wrote about this from the late 1960s on. If the government tries to mandate equal results by race, we need to think about whether there are racial differences that make that impossible.

1 posted on 01/01/2019 10:25:49 AM PST by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

Well the kick off at Daytona isn’t that far off so racing season will............... Oh. THAT race.


2 posted on 01/01/2019 10:30:33 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: reaganaut1

He may be right but this does not say the next individual you meet is more or less intelligent.


3 posted on 01/01/2019 10:34:20 AM PST by Combat_Liberalism
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To: reaganaut1
Even if it were generally true, moral policies aren't made on generalities. Red heads are hot headed, short men are angry and pretty blondes are dingy. God looks at the inner person. The crimson flow from the cross is needed by all sinners, every color, every language. Happy new year. 🙏.
4 posted on 01/01/2019 10:36:10 AM PST by KDF48 (Redeemed by Christ.)
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To: reaganaut1

One of the foundations of science is that a hypothesis must be repeatable to be accepted as true.

Thus any of the naysayers to Watson’s assertions are free to conduct tests and publish results that contradict Dr. Watson’s assertions.

Let me know when that actually happens, and which New York Times reporter is responsible for such a peer reviewed study.


5 posted on 01/01/2019 10:36:47 AM PST by Regulator
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To: reaganaut1

Fact after verifiable fact confirms that there are measurable differences between populations on all measurable variables, including intelligence, but it is professional suicide to point this out; it must be explained away. The only solution would be to treat each person as an individual, to be rewarded per his or her individual performance and behavior, but that, it seems, is not acceptable.


6 posted on 01/01/2019 10:37:38 AM PST by VietVet
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To: reaganaut1

Read The Bell Curve, but don’t tell anyone you did.


7 posted on 01/01/2019 10:38:46 AM PST by Spok
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To: reaganaut1

In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

The IQ tests prove this over and over and over again. Like it or don’t. Feel micro-aggressed or don’t. Assume social norms make the test unfair or don’t. It doesn’t matter.

The fact of the matter is, different races’ brains are measurably different.


8 posted on 01/01/2019 10:40:03 AM PST by TheZMan (I am a secessionist.)
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To: reaganaut1

You are free to think like the group or lose everything.


9 posted on 01/01/2019 10:41:24 AM PST by Leep (Leftist are neither liberal or democratic. Nor are they pro American.)
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To: reaganaut1

He’s still alive!? I figured he had untwisted his helix years ago.


10 posted on 01/01/2019 10:43:15 AM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: reaganaut1
Moreover, he added, although he wished everyone were equal, “people who have to deal with black employees find this not true.”

LOL!!! Yeah, you can't say that at a staff meeting, unless you say it within the first five minutes.

11 posted on 01/01/2019 10:43:30 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: TheZMan

I find it interesting that blacks deem themselves more athletically superior to whites. But if THIS is true, why might it not also be true that whites are more intelligent? Of course , there are exceptions. in each case.


12 posted on 01/01/2019 10:44:30 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Regulator

http://www.aei.org/publication/bell-curve-20-years-later-qa-charles-murray/

...An increasingly isolated cognitive elite.

A merging of the cognitive elite with the affluent.

A deteriorating quality of life for people at the bottom end of the cognitive distribution...


13 posted on 01/01/2019 10:44:41 AM PST by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: reaganaut1

If you believe in evolution, almost as a default you must believe in the likelihood of measurable and significant differences among distinct groups within species, no?


14 posted on 01/01/2019 10:46:52 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Combat_Liberalism
He may be right but this does not say the next individual you meet is more or less intelligent.

Exactly. Probably more variation among group members than difference in the means of the groups, thus more overlap than deviation.

Another case is the difference between men and women. With men, intelligence distribution is broader, so there are both more geniuses and more idiots among men than among women. While the means are very close, iirc, the bell curve is flatter for men, with more outliers on both high and low ends.

15 posted on 01/01/2019 10:47:23 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: reaganaut1

The 4 seasons of non-Equator Africa may have caused the evolution of out of Africa persons to advance. The warmth of equatorial Africa may have kept the Africans to not evolve to higher ability to adapt. However, the problem with this theory is that Africa at the equator went through 1000 year cycles of heavy rain and tropical rain forest to the other extreme of drought and desert conditions. Thus the changes in Africa occurred much more gradually and were not noticeable over the time of a single life span. Thus, it could be that the so called 4 seasons of the year (yearly climate change) are a major contributor to evolution of humans.


16 posted on 01/01/2019 10:48:17 AM PST by Trumpet 1 (US Constitution is my guide.)
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“If that is the case, it may not bode well for combating prejudice in biomedical research, where African-Americans represent just 1.5 percent of grant applications to the N.I.H. Biases in hiring by medical school science departments are well documented.”

Bias? Or difference? The two are very different, but it is impossible to discuss race or sexuality in modern America honestly - or you WILL be destroyed! One cannot even go, “What if?”


17 posted on 01/01/2019 10:48:29 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Combat_Liberalism

My thoughts exactly. We are still all individuals.

Also, nurture, education, health and attitude are very important as to how “smart” you are. Not simply genetics.


18 posted on 01/01/2019 10:49:38 AM PST by Persevero (Democrats haven't been this nutty since we freed their slaves.)
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To: reaganaut1

Rich coming from the newspaper that hired and defended Sarah Jeong.


19 posted on 01/01/2019 10:49:43 AM PST by Trump20162020
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To: reaganaut1

I am chuckling while imagining trying to have this discussion on, say, democraticunderground.com.


20 posted on 01/01/2019 10:53:01 AM PST by bubbacluck (America 180)
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