House approves 'right to try,' sends bill to Trump's desk [147 Dems vote no]

The Hill ^ | 5/22/2018 | Rachel Roubein

[catnipman]

The House sent “right to try” legislation on experimental drugs to President Trump’s desk Tuesday — a measure Trump, Vice President Pence and groups backed by mega-donors Charles and David Koch have repeatedly urged Congress to pass.

The House passed the bill largely along party lines by a 250-169 [actually 267-149] vote.

[i_robot73]

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You can bet that McCain has had access to experimental drugs before this was passed.
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Please. We all know the Law is only for us ‘hobbits’ and ‘pleebs’

[i_robot73]

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I am NOT suggesting that the feds keep drugs unavailable for these patients.

What I AM saying is that protocols need to be put in place for informed consent, protocols tailored for these patients and families, and the protocols should be adhered to.
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Protocols? Why does the GOVT need to be involved...at ALL?? Drug companies can develop their own, or be sued into oblivion for negligence\fraud\etc. (far greater incentive to ‘do right’ than a govt mandate\busy-body, IMO).

What makes ‘these people’ any more *special* than the rest of us?

Whom *OWNS* you?? Any person wishing to be a guinea-pig should be FREE to do so, no? Be it for life-ending afflictions or hang-nails...

[SunkenCiv]

If the vote were for blanket legalization of assisted suicide, euthanasia, and anything-goes abortion, the Demagogic Party would be 100 percent in favor of it. Thanks catnipman.

[OldGoatCPO]

Keep in mind a bill is only the first step. Implementing a bill will require guidelines to be written by bureaucrats. Generally this is where some form of an informed consent requirements would be established. To expedite the bill, I would think the informed consent already used by drug companies would be a requirement. Unless the Feds already have a consent form on file using the current standards established by companies would expedite implementation, take the government out of the process and of course limit Federal culpability.

[editor-surveyor]

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>> “If the vote were for blanket legalization of assisted suicide, euthanasia, and anything-goes abortion, the Demagogic Party would be 100 percent in favor of it.” <<

Yep! - The more death that is involved, the faster they get on board.

And when something provably extends life, they insist that the public must be ‘protected’ from such a questionable product.
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[Still Thinking]

what kind of evil would try to stop that?

Tyrant controls freaks who are also so arrogant they presume they're smarter than real people who work for a living as opposed to dictating [badly] to others.

[Still Thinking]

You can bet that McCain has had access to experimental drugs before this was passed.

I'm actually OK with that so long as the experimental med is formalin. Cherry flavored.

[SunkenCiv]

[i_robot73]

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Keep in mind a bill is only the first step. Implementing a bill will require guidelines to be written by bureaucrats. Generally this is where some form of an informed consent requirements would be established. To expedite the bill, I would think the informed consent already used by drug companies would be a requirement. Unless the Feds already have a consent form on file using the current standards established by companies would expedite implementation, take the government out of the process and of course limit Federal culpability.
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There doesn’t NEED to be Step #1. Fedzilla has ZERO culpability\authority.

Consent signed = contract between Rx & patient (MAYBE doctor to administer/etc.). Govt is only there to ensure the Obligation of Contracts (A1S10C1)

[spacewarp]

“Let’s load you up with Gamma radiation and we’ll cure that anger control issue, I’m sure, Mr. Banner.”

“Mr. Wilson, we can treat that cancer with a new experimental syrum.”

[Seaplaner]

You raise a reasonable caution.

However, what about drugs that are approved for other disease states that show promise in animal cancer studies?

And, what about drugs that are only part-way through the expensive and time-consuming cancer drug approval process?

For those with weeks or months to live, they and their families deserve the option with little interference from the nanny state and big pharma lobbies.

[spacewarp]

Being a cancer survivor, I can tell you from personal experience, I’d be glad to have a solution if there was one if things had taken a turn for the worse.

Fortunately it didn’t (or I am trapped in a really bad hell for the last 30+ years and didn’t realize that first or second time my heart stopped that it was it.)

I was pointing out the silly argument. Honestly, just trying to inject a bit of humor into an otherwise REALLY serious discussion.