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Supreme Court strikes down key deportation provision, with Gorsuch help
Fox News ^ | April 17, 2018 | staff

Posted on 04/17/2018 10:09:29 AM PDT by Leaning Right

Justice Neil Gorsuch provided the decisive vote Tuesday in a Supreme Court ruling striking down a key provision that made it easier to deport immigrants convicted of violent crimes, in a blow to the Trump administration.

President Trump's Supreme Court pick has largely sided with the conservative members of the bench since his appointment, but sided with the liberal wing on Tuesday.

The court said the part of the law in question is too vague to be enforced.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; california; deport; deportation; elenakagan; gorsuch; immigration; neilgorsuch; obama; sanfrancisco; scotus; trump
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To: JudyinCanada

agree


21 posted on 04/17/2018 11:14:39 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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To: Leaning Right

My question is, what blackmail does the Left have on Gorsuch? I’m convinced they completely control the Supreme Court now through blackmail. The only ones they can’t control that way were/are Scalia (dead, probably murdered by the Left) and Thomas (marginalized by the media).


22 posted on 04/17/2018 11:16:20 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Enjoy the decline of the American empire.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

we’ll find out really in June where Gorsuch leans when the the real war comes up: the decision on unions and mandatory payments.

This guy should be sequestered at Fort Knox before the Deep State gets to him ala Roberts and Scalia.


23 posted on 04/17/2018 11:34:30 AM PDT by max americana (Fired libtard employees 9 consecutive times at every election since 08'. I hope all liberals die.)
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To: Leaning Right

“Violent crimes are violations of criminal law that involve the intentional use of violence by one person against another. Social scientists do not agree on a single or unified definition of violence, however.

Criminologists tend to favor narrow definitions of violence, focusing on physical harm or threats. Many, but not all, criminologists accept the definition provided by an influential National Research Council study, which defined violence as “behaviors by individuals that intentionally threaten, attempt, or inflict physical harm on others” (Reiss and Roth 1993, p. 2; see General Overviews). This definition includes a diverse assortment of behaviors, including homicide, assault, robbery (theft accompanied by force or threat), rape, torture, capital punishment, and boxing. But it excludes many acts that are encompassed by other, equally reasonable definitions.

How one chooses to define violence prefigures the types of behavior that are counted as violence, the levels of violence observed across place and time, the theories that make sense of violent behavior, and the social response to violence.”

http://www.oxfordbibliographies.com/view/document/obo-9780195396607/obo-9780195396607-0001.xml


24 posted on 04/17/2018 11:35:40 AM PDT by polymuser (Its terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged today. - Chesterton)
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To: JudyinCanada

We don’t want vague laws that can be interpreted to mean anything by anybody.

We have too much of that already.
Here in PA I can be cited for driving with an “excessive” amount of snow on my car. How much is “excessive”? The law doesn’t say. If the borough needs revenue it might be three flakes.


25 posted on 04/17/2018 11:38:05 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Leaning Right

If the law is vague how come only the liberals plus Gorsuch saw that and four conservative Justices didn’t?


26 posted on 04/17/2018 11:43:58 AM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus

> If the law is vague how come only the liberals plus Gorsuch saw that and four conservative Justices didn’t? <

Great question.


27 posted on 04/17/2018 11:46:24 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Reno89519

Why not Any Crime - Throwing a cig butt on the ground and out you go. I dislike cleaning up my yard from others discarded cig butts. Family does not smoke.


28 posted on 04/17/2018 11:46:57 AM PDT by Don_Ret_USAF ("No Government can survive Without The Trust Of The People.")
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To: Leaning Right

Did Gorsuch at least get a fat briefcase full of cash to take to Switzerland?


29 posted on 04/17/2018 11:51:57 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (A Second Amendment march to deny leftists their First Amendment rights. Turnabout is fair play.)
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To: Leaning Right

NOT AGAIN!!!???

It must be the miasmal air inside the beltway.

Or is it the money or the need to fit in?


30 posted on 04/17/2018 12:21:20 PM PDT by Iron Munro (To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize. -- Voltaire.)
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To: Nero Germanicus
If the law is vague how come only the liberals plus Gorsuch saw that and four conservative Justices didn’t?

You could always read through the decision to find out what their reasoning is. Or you could let the press tell you. I'm sure noone in the press has any agendas, on either side.

31 posted on 04/17/2018 1:49:57 PM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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To: JudyinCanada

Agree.


32 posted on 04/17/2018 1:52:09 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Nero Germanicus

when he took the side of the 4 liberals then I would like to know why, and it is not too vague.
Is this another judge again who will turn like so many republican Presidents have placed?


33 posted on 04/17/2018 2:52:35 PM PDT by manc ( If they want so called marriage equality then they should support polygamy too.)
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To: TADSLOS; Tennessee Nana

ping


34 posted on 04/17/2018 2:56:41 PM PDT by Liz ((Our side has 8 trillion bullets;the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.))
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To: manc

Is this another judge again who will turn like so many republican Presidents have placed?
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Every day there is bad news for our side. I am not exaggerating.

Probably Gorsuch will be a mildly moderate bland sort of somewhat -in- a -way -toward -the -right, most of the time-guy, like Jeb Bush genetically merged with Lindsay Graham. Is that the best we can do?

Just don’t let him take guest interview spots on Ellen or Jimmy Kimmel or we’re finished. “Which camera shows my best profile?” “They’re both handsome, Judge Gorsuch.”


35 posted on 04/17/2018 3:40:05 PM PDT by frank ballenger
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To: JudyinCanada

That some POS illegal immigrant gets to stay here is no consideration?


36 posted on 04/17/2018 3:50:22 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Leaning Right

READ Grosuch decision

Vagueness in writing laws by Legislatures is one of the way the Activist Judiciary and radical Leftist bureaucrats have squeezed so much of their wacko Leftist agenda into law.

This is sound Conservative principal. It just happens to be applied against a hot button issue Conservatives favor.

Bad law is bad law even if we happen to agree with what it is trying to accomplish.

The law needs to be re-written.


37 posted on 04/17/2018 4:44:43 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ("The political class is a bureaucracy designed to perpetuate itself" Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Leaning Right

congress will not change the law congress is pro criminal immigrants chosing to not protect US citizens


38 posted on 04/17/2018 4:51:35 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Build Kate's Wall)
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To: Leaning Right

had to believe no definition of violent crime. Many states list the crime by their state codes. Or corrections when they grant early releases. Recently cal listed violent crimes so Jerry brown could say we are releasing only nonviolent offenders early. Of course he lied.


39 posted on 04/17/2018 5:01:56 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Build Kate's Wall)
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To: taxcontrol
Exactly right. The takeaway line in the article is as follows:

"The court said the part of the law in question was too vague to be enforced."

Hardly a "repudiation" of Trump's immigration policies but in fact an invitation for Congress to try again with a better written set of laws that can stand the test of time and be properly enforced.

40 posted on 04/17/2018 5:09:44 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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