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Florida shooter willing to plead guilty to avoid death penalty
MSN / CNN ^ | February 17, 2018

Posted on 02/17/2018 4:12:23 AM PST by SMGFan

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To: thoughtomator
I do not share your naive confidence that the same people who just got caught red-handed in a seditious conspiracy to overthrow the government of the United States.... Your lack of skepticism of FBI actions and motives is absolutely groundless and quite arguably insane.

You win the Gold Medal for jumping to conclusions

Having been an adult during Rudy Ridge, Waco, and other sketchy FBI, DOJ, highly questionable events, I have a very healthy skepticism.

I won't address you moronic "naive"and "insane" comment.

What point in this tragic event that would make you think it's a false flag event?

Dems and the MSM need to ban guns ? Oh yeah' we already know that...

Occam razor is the answer, not some nutter conspiracy theory

61 posted on 02/17/2018 5:57:05 AM PST by Popman (My sin was great, Your love was greater  What could separate us now…)
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To: TalBlack

Yes, society is very demented.


62 posted on 02/17/2018 6:05:36 AM PST by DownInFlames
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To: SMGFan

And yet more proof that our society is doomed. This kid purposely kills 17 people and then all he has to do is plead guilty to live for free off the rest of us for the rest of his natural life.

JoMa


63 posted on 02/17/2018 6:05:56 AM PST by joma89
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To: Popman

> What point in this tragic event that would make you think it’s a false flag event?

Well for starters, that even the FBI admits it did not do what it was supposed to do.

So the next question is what DID they do?

I see no basis to rule out malfeasance. The FBI has been run for many years by what has been revealed to be essentially organized crime, with no established upper limit to the crimes they will commit in the pursuit of power.

I don’t know that this is a false flag, but to rule it out as a possibility, given the history of the organization and the individuals who have been leading it, is nuts.


64 posted on 02/17/2018 6:10:36 AM PST by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 0)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Hang the bastard.


65 posted on 02/17/2018 6:11:53 AM PST by onedoug
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To: grania

“because the more we learn about him and who and what influenced him, the more we’ll know about how to prevent these situations in the future.“

Bullcrap. He killed people because he’s a psychopath. Execute him after a fair trial. We already know how to prevent these incidents. Arm teachers.

L


66 posted on 02/17/2018 6:22:08 AM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: BuffaloJack

That would be a good deterrent! And sat out in public


67 posted on 02/17/2018 6:23:43 AM PST by pangaea6
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To: SMGFan

He is not going to be put to death. You just won’t hear much about him anymore.


68 posted on 02/17/2018 6:30:29 AM PST by dforest (Never let a Muslim cut your hair.)
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To: TalBlack

I agree but with one addition.

A society that doesn’t put this animal to death gets more of the same and worse.

Is this what the screaming out of control 3 year-old on an airplane becomes when not corrected?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5391341/Passenger-films-toddlers-eight-hour-tantrum-flight.html


69 posted on 02/17/2018 6:31:16 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: SMGFan

How about a resounding NO!

This maggot needs to be served up the same treatment he dished out to his victims.

He doesn’t deserve to live.

The human cost of his vile evilness is undefinable.

But the financial cost of imprisonment isn’t.

Why should taxpayers keep this killer alive in prison year after year?

Estimates of the annual cost to imprison a criminal range from around $25,000 to $150,000 in different states and different cities.

Cruz is 19 now.

Assume it costs $30,000 a year to imprison him and assume he will live for 50 years in prison.

That comes to $1.5 million dollars.

Then there are the additional costs of court proceedings and his tax paid lawyers.

Put him to death and use that $1.5 million dollars to assist his wounded victims and the families of those he killed.


70 posted on 02/17/2018 6:32:21 AM PST by Vlad The Inhaler (The only trannie I want to see is a Muncie 4 Speed M-22 Rock Crusher)
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To: thoughtomator

“How convenient”

I wonder if they bothered to run nitrate tests on him or checked the rifle for his prints.

It is often the case that loons confess to crimes they didn’t commit.

Though I “believe” this guy did it, I’d still like to seem some actual attempt to provide some physical evidence.


71 posted on 02/17/2018 6:35:54 AM PST by fruser1
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To: KC Burke

And when the SHTF lying old media pundits should all have a bullseye on their heads.


72 posted on 02/17/2018 6:43:39 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Google Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC ...)
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To: SMGFan

A eye for an eye.


73 posted on 02/17/2018 6:50:58 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: SMGFan

If this serial killer is not executed, there is no justice.


74 posted on 02/17/2018 6:58:28 AM PST by Midwesterner53
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To: SMGFan

In cases like this where there is no question of guilt we need the option of an expedited death penalty - no appeal, no delay. Find him guilty and execute him the next day.


75 posted on 02/17/2018 7:00:01 AM PST by slumber1 (Islam delenda est)
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To: SMGFan

A plea deal? This is slam-dunk even without an admission.


76 posted on 02/17/2018 7:11:50 AM PST by umgud
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To: SMGFan

strange...I thought he might be setting up a mental defect defense with the voices in his head stuff....


77 posted on 02/17/2018 7:13:28 AM PST by stylin19a (Best.Election.of.All-Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever)
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To: thoughtomator
Well for starters, that even the FBI admits it did not do what it was supposed to do.

LOL...what else were they going to say? Pull an Obama and blame some else?

I don’t know that this is a false flag, but to rule it out as a possibility, given the history of the organization and the individuals who have been leading it, is nuts.

LOL... based on your post to me, that would make you insane!!!

78 posted on 02/17/2018 7:19:18 AM PST by Popman (My sin was great, Your love was greater  What could separate us now…)
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To: Neoliberalnot
Always the plea when there is no money for the lawyers. Who knew?

He has a public defender, who will be paid by the taxpayers no matter what happens. He is on video and has confessed. The public defender has few options relating to guilt or innocence. Really, an insanity defense is the only option and that almost never succeeds. The public defender is playing the only card he has. I hope the prosecution does not take the deal.

79 posted on 02/17/2018 8:04:02 AM PST by KevinB (I do not care for this Obama fellow.)
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To: Popman

Popman, while following the thread of post/reply here, I have come to the conclusion that you are being wholly unreasonable. While I always hesitate at jumping down the conspiracy rabbit hole, the Freeper you are denigrating has been quite lucid in his comments. Give him a brea k.


80 posted on 02/17/2018 8:36:43 AM PST by Spacetrucker (George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to defeat the British - HE SHOT THEM .. WITH GUNS)
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