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This New Russian Sniper Rifle Is Redefining 'a Safe Distance
Popular Mechanics ^ | Dec 8, 2017 703 | David Hambling

Posted on 12/09/2017 11:37:27 AM PST by Mean Daddy

Common Russian battle tactics, currently on display in Ukraine and elsewhere, uses three rows of snipers in battle. Although the first two rows present a challenge for even the best marksmen, it’s the back row—which can be around 2,000 yards away from a target—where Russia places its most elite. Now a U.S. Army report says that this last row of warriors have become even more deadly, thanks to a new weapon—the T-5000 Tochnost rifle.

The report, called the “Russian New Generation Warfare Handbook,” warns that Russian snipers are “far more advanced than the precision shooters U.S. formations have encountered over the last 15 years” and can’t be thwarted by usual anti-sniper tactics of locating and pinning down the sniper. To be put simply, the Army is being outgunned

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To: PIF

LOL

You had me going. I was wondering if you were suggesting dropping water on the snipers. That might actually be effective in sub-zero temperatures!


21 posted on 12/09/2017 12:17:52 PM PST by TigersEye (0bama. The Legacy is a lie. The lie is the Legacy.)
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To: Mean Daddy

https://www.tracking-point.com/american-sniper-shootout-2015/

I don’t think their tactics are any match for warriors shooting what Taya Kyle did in the demo.


22 posted on 12/09/2017 12:18:56 PM PST by gwjack (May God give America His richest blessings.)
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To: PIF

If it was dropping gasoline that could be ignited shortly after drop would sure make a hell of a bang.

1 lb of gas vaporized ewuals about 12 lbs of tnt


23 posted on 12/09/2017 12:23:57 PM PST by stockpirate (REPRESSION BREEDS VIOLENCE)
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To: PIF

That’s an anti-sniper weapon??

jk


24 posted on 12/09/2017 12:33:43 PM PST by Enchante (Bill, Anthony, Harvey .... how does lesbo Hillary manage to surround herself with male predators???)
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To: Magnum44

You might find this interesting:

Kurdish People’s Protection Unit’s Homemade Zagros 12.7mm Sniper Rifle Revealed

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/08/robert-farago/kurdish-peoples-protection-units-homemade-zagros-12-7mm-sniper-rifle-revealed/

I’ve been told of some amazing shots they have done with the 12.7MM version. (they also have some 50BMG’s too)


25 posted on 12/09/2017 12:39:17 PM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

Thanks for the link.


26 posted on 12/09/2017 12:39:28 PM PST by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: dila813

Well, we used 155mm howitzers as an anti-sniper weapon in Aachen...so a TOW wouldn’t be too out of place as a tactic.


27 posted on 12/09/2017 12:39:52 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: PIF

Dousing the sniper would likely cause him trouble.


28 posted on 12/09/2017 12:40:31 PM PST by Bogey78O (So far so good.)
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To: Magnum44

I’d love to have a 50BMG. Might be able to actually afford one of those.

I’m in awe of the 12.7MM and the 20MM stuff. But must have a destructive device license for that. It costs a little to get that.


29 posted on 12/09/2017 12:42:13 PM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Mean Daddy

A bullet requires some time to travel 2,000 meters. Not being where the shooter thinks you will be is a defense. Don’t stand still in an exposed spot, or move in the same direction for any length of time.


30 posted on 12/09/2017 12:48:59 PM PST by fso301
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To: PIF

Actually that’s a creative solution to counter-sniper problems.


31 posted on 12/09/2017 12:50:00 PM PST by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: Mean Daddy

Drones with hellfire missiles, rotary mortars, tomohawks, tanks, basic artillery, air strike, etc.

Lots ways to take a sniper out at distance.


32 posted on 12/09/2017 12:52:28 PM PST by buffaloguy (Bond arms Cowbot)
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To: Texas Fossil

I’ve got an AR 30 in 338 Lapua and I already can barely afford to shoot that...lol


33 posted on 12/09/2017 1:04:58 PM PST by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: ctdonath2

“Actually that’s a creative solution to counter-sniper problems.”


You heard it here first! See what benefits can be had by accidentally posting one the wrong thread?


34 posted on 12/09/2017 1:19:48 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PIF

Ha ha, actually, I’m going to pretend that you fully intended that picture to be in this thread - that your suggestion to deal with snipers is to dump huge amounts of water on them!


35 posted on 12/09/2017 1:24:50 PM PST by OldGuard1
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To: Mean Daddy
Gives new meaning to the phrase, reach out and touch somebody.

That's why I volunteered to carry the M60 machinegun for the three years that I was in the infantry ...

36 posted on 12/09/2017 1:37:34 PM PST by BlueLancer (Black Rifle Coffee - Freedom, guns, tits, bacon, and booze!)
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To: Texas Fossil
There's also the .408 CheyTac with a 419 grain at 3,000 fps. There's a lighter bullet that out penetrates .50 BMG AP rounds.

Parent case for the .338 Lapua is the .416 Rigby. The CheyTac uses .505 Gibbs Magnum as the parent. Fortunately Jamison stepped up and did a run of .505 Gibbs cases, addressing the higher pressure by including a belt on the inside.

Jamison was hounded and eventually shuttered by atf and associated .govs for exporting military material without proper dispensation. Seem they sent a box of, as I recall, .577-450 Martini-Henry brass overseas.

37 posted on 12/09/2017 1:42:58 PM PST by kitchen (If you are a violin bow maker or restorer please ping me.)
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To: Ancesthntr

My old man was a BAR gunner during WWII in the ETO. He told me they used the BAR to “snipe” unwary Germans who believed they were out of first round range. It involved a spotter with some good quality German binoculars and the shooter would aim low and let off a burst on the faster rate of fire available on the BAR. They got consistent hits.

Most of the targets were out of their holes to relieve themselves... Ain’t war grand?


38 posted on 12/09/2017 1:51:28 PM PST by M1911A1 (President Trump. Ahhhhhhhh.....)
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To: Mean Daddy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix9YCWm_Dtw


39 posted on 12/09/2017 2:25:51 PM PST by LeoWindhorse (America First !)
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To: NY.SS-Bar9
Not unless you master reading the wind, Coriolis effect, barrel temperature, air temperature and a few other details.

Or acquire a computerized scope that does all that for you.


40 posted on 12/09/2017 2:30:19 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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