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This New Russian Sniper Rifle Is Redefining 'a Safe Distance
Popular Mechanics ^ | Dec 8, 2017 703 | David Hambling

Posted on 12/09/2017 11:37:27 AM PST by Mean Daddy

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To: Texas Fossil

Wonder who makes the optics for these Milers?


61 posted on 12/10/2017 8:04:46 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: rlmorel

Here is a parallel to your quote:

A Boast that Turned to Toast: Billy Dixon, The Shot of the Century, and the Humiliation of White Eagle

http://www.wadeburleson.org/2014/03/a-boast-that-turned-to-toast-billy.html

Comanche Medicine Man named Quenatosavit (”White Eagle”) called his own fate too.

Technical details on Dixon’s shot from a Sharps 50-90 using a paperpatch black powder cartridge. (estimate between 1,000 and 1,500 yards) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Battle_of_Adobe_Walls

“while a post-battle survey by a team of US Army surveyors, under the command of Gen. Nelson A. Miles, measured the distance: 1,538 yards”


62 posted on 12/10/2017 9:10:30 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Fightin Whitey

I have no idea.


63 posted on 12/10/2017 9:12:15 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Fightin Whitey

My guess would be that the glass is made by Schott AG in Germany. It is owned by Zeiss.

The scopes are probably made by a company which I cannot quite pin down. They are called KOMZ sometimes and Baigish and probably other names.

I have one of their 7x30 binoculars and they are really odd. First of all they are extremely sharp optically. They also have a distinct yellow cast which is put there on purpose. Also include a set of filters which makes the image more orange than anything else.

Also when you adjust the focus on either side, the image either zooms in or out depending on which way you turn the eyepiece. Surprisingly, your eyes don’t even notice and they automatically merge the images as the same size.

Also there is a slight amount of built in distortion which makes the image appear perfectly straight as you scan. Normal binoculars seem to distort the image as you scan.

Also the eyepieces have a 7 element design which is more than any other binocular that I am aware of. Most have 3 elements.


64 posted on 12/10/2017 9:34:51 AM PST by yarddog
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To: PIF

That would be warm water. LOL

Just kidding you.


65 posted on 12/10/2017 11:01:12 AM PST by DoughtyOne (McConnell / Ryan: Why pass Cons legislation when we can pass Leftist legislation for Leftists?)
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To: Texas Fossil

Wow...I couldn’t believe they could make a shot like that in that day...

It must have made quite an impression on those Comanche, because it apparently took a lot to make an impression on them!


66 posted on 12/10/2017 4:28:22 PM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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To: rlmorel

Some ancestors of my high school agriculture teacher were at Adobe Walls. I never saw the cartridge, but I’ve been told he had a 50 caliber cartridge from then.

What is amazing was the accuracy of cast lead bullets with paper jacket in the brass cartridge. It was an artform, but no leading in the barrel with a pure lead bullet. They were black powder cartridges, they were shooting a very special kind of black powder, very carefully milled. The people at Adobe Walls were buffalo hunters, they made their living shooting long range killing buffalo.

The part that is seldom talked about, there was a huge cache of rifles, ammo and supplies at Adobe Walls. They were supplying the Buffalo hunters. It was in the store there. That was one of the objectives of the Indians when they attacked.

Most of the initial defense was done with pistols and carbines. The Indians were on the roof and around the building. They very nearly succeed on the initial assault.

After that the long range rifles kept them from getting in close. (at night they were vulnerable)


67 posted on 12/10/2017 5:41:10 PM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: NY.SS-Bar9
By the time you enter all the data, your target is long gone.

Don't real snipers sit in the same hide for days on end?

And all the while their spotter calculates all the ranges to various landmarks?

But because the scope can't instantly do the same thing that the spotter takes days setting up it's no good?

68 posted on 12/10/2017 6:01:29 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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To: Texas Fossil

Good God. One can imagine the butchery that would have ensued. Those wer were tough people, I guesss they had to be in that arid, scrubby country.


69 posted on 12/10/2017 7:28:10 PM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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To: rlmorel

Yes, they were.

Even in Texas, most people today don’t understand that large portions of Texas were uninhabited long after Statehood.

The Texas revolution took place in 1836. Texas became a US State in 1846. In more than 1/2 of the state, counties were not divided up until after the Civil War. As a consequence, those areas did not vote for Secession.

My ancestors moved to this county in 1889, the county was formed in 1885. When it was settled, often multi-family groups came together (in Wagons). Here, some of those families are still present.

I was the first of my family to move away, was gone 25 years, moved back in 1995. It was always home.

We have a single row planter that was towed behind the wagons when they moved here from near Gatesville. It is a B F Avery planter. Was pulled with a horse or a mule.

My grandfather (born in 1905) used a team of mules to farm when he married my grandmother. He bought one of the early tractors, his father disapproved, he sold the tractor and got another team of mules for a short time. The railroads were built through here in 1907.


70 posted on 12/11/2017 4:33:56 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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