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Top general says he would resist "illegal" nuke order from Trump
CBS .com ^ | 11/18/17 | KATHRYN WATSON

Posted on 11/18/2017 9:53:05 AM PST by ex91B10

The top U.S. nuclear commander said Saturday he would push back against President Trump if he ordered a nuclear launch the general believed to be "illegal," saying he would hope to find another solution.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cbs; donaldtrump; fakenews; firehisbutt; fourth100days; genhyten; hyten; illegalnukeorder; johnhyten; nationalsecurity; trump; trumpdod; trumpnatlsecurity; trumpnukeorder
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To: Snickering Hound

I can smell the perfume from here. Lemme guess, desk jockey?

Under the Affirmative Actiin electee?


221 posted on 11/18/2017 8:01:08 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are silly those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: SuperLuminal
Mustang Ranch?

"Violate"?

"Many of our *treats*"?

ROFLMAO!!

222 posted on 11/18/2017 8:11:51 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are silly those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: lodi90

Intelligent != “street-smart”


223 posted on 11/18/2017 8:17:15 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are silly those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: lodi90

You got me, but I can tell you we just finished a large strategic exercise that involved the simulated launch of a significant number of nuclear weapons, and I also happen to know what his feelings are on how to respond to similar attacks.

This is serious business, and GEN Hyten is a serious man. Trust me, it’s all quite sobering once you see these things happening in something beyond the theoretical or a “Terminator” film.

If you’re worrying b/c of this interview, then you’re being played by the MSM—again.


224 posted on 11/18/2017 8:27:24 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: ex91B10
I️ would not blame a general officer for refusing what he feels is an illegal order of cataclysmic magnitude
225 posted on 11/18/2017 8:35:08 PM PST by wardaddy (As a southerner I've never trusted the Grand Old Party.....any questions?)
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To: ex91B10

What part of ILLEGAL don’t you understand.

The general is part of the NCA. IT IS HIS PLACE TO DETERMINE LEGALIUTY of a nuclear release order.

His statement as it was given exactly states his responsibilities.

It seems that there is a lot you don’t understand about the subject before you opened you mouth.


226 posted on 11/18/2017 8:39:01 PM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: stockpirate

POTUS make the final decision on a launch or no launch option based on all of the inputs provided for him. When the decision is made, the appropriate option commands are transmitted.


227 posted on 11/18/2017 8:43:03 PM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: SuperLuminal

We’re not going to preemptively nuke NK to rid them of nukes than Israel would have nuked Osirak to remove their capability at that time. The preemptive strike was and would be conventional.

Again, based on the facts and the advice of the military advisors the president will authorize military action. If not reacting to a validated nuclear strike attempt; the response will not be nuclear.


228 posted on 11/18/2017 8:51:29 PM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: CodeToad

wrong, dude


229 posted on 11/18/2017 10:04:21 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Mr Rogers

” “The guy above you gets to say what is legal or not”. “

No one said it did.


230 posted on 11/19/2017 7:20:26 AM PST by CodeToad (CWII is coming. Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: yldstrk

So you think you get to challenge all orders and presumptively claim they are illegal unless proven legal??

Good luck with that.

All orders are presumptively legal unless you can prove they are not. Higher authority doesn’t need to prove their orders are lawful to you and you don’t have to obey them until they do.


231 posted on 11/19/2017 7:22:58 AM PST by CodeToad (CWII is coming. Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: CodeToad

You don’t know what you are talking about


232 posted on 11/19/2017 7:43:27 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Future Snake Eater
If you’re worrying b/c of this interview, then you’re being played by the MSM—again.

As have several other loud mouths here.

233 posted on 11/19/2017 9:52:25 AM PST by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: Mr.Unique
Precisely. The emotional response here is amazing.

It's scary. These people would fit perfectly in North Korea. Ironically, not so long ago they were the same way with the Bushes. And of course, the Left is the same way.

Never say public schools are a failure! They were designed to produce precisely this worship of all authority.

234 posted on 11/19/2017 12:00:03 PM PST by Forgotten Amendments (Nessie ... Sasquatch ... The Free Syrian Army ...)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
"Still wrong.
You do not say, "That's illegal." Not when talking to your superior. You say, "That is unlawful."

Unlawful, illegal. You're right but it really is semantics.
Hyten is one of the better stratcom commanders in recent history, and was pretty much set up by the media and by one of his predecessors. Gen (ret) Bob Kehler, not the sharpest spoon in the drawer, who fell into a rhetorical trap set by a dem congressman during recent testimony.
If there is a nuclear threat, the stratcom commander is on the phone with POTUS (or GEOTUS [snicker]) and other seniors and they decide what to do. Lawfully, and very quickly.

I agree with a previous poster that said the best answer would have been, "The Commander in Chief wouldn't issue an unlawful order."

With all respect FReegards,
Kit

235 posted on 11/19/2017 9:38:13 PM PST by KitJ (Shall not be infringed...)
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To: KitJ
You're right but it really is semantics.

When you are telling your boss that he is about to step on his...er.. a sensitive part of his anatomy it is all about linguistics.

Paying attention to small details and being very courteous is the best way to ensure that your advise is followed and you don't end up in a position where you can do nothing to influencing the outcome.

Remember you are, at this point, giving legal and political advice to someone who does not have to listen to you.

If you have risen to the political office of four star General, and all Generals are political animals, he should be able to respond properly even if he was ambushed.

In fact he should be able to smell a political ambush six miles away.

So that does concern me a bit.

Still, nothing I can do about it.

236 posted on 11/19/2017 9:55:58 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

We are in agreement.

Trump is not a madman.

This general is a loyal Patriot. I hope I don’t have to eat my words since the military IS populated with a bunch of “perfumed princes of the Potomac”. This is a tempest in a tea cup for the press.

And, the expression I think you’re looking for is, “Stepped on his crank”.

;)


237 posted on 11/19/2017 11:23:40 PM PST by KitJ (Shall not be infringed...)
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To: ex91B10

bkmk


238 posted on 11/22/2017 8:12:59 AM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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