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Is Communism Worse Than Nazism?
Forward ^ | October 3, 2017 | Cathy Young

Posted on 10/16/2017 4:10:10 PM PDT by SJackson

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To: SJackson

Both are on the Totalitarian end of the spectrum. How they do it is the difference, but both have the state ruling the individual.


21 posted on 10/16/2017 4:28:26 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Trump continues to have all the right enemies.)
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To: dfwgator
Same thing, really, but I think Communism is more dangerous....I think Jews would disagree.

True enough,particularly given that a fair percentage of them are Communists.

Among unbiased students of recent history you'll find that the verdict on both is YUCK!

22 posted on 10/16/2017 4:28:52 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (ObamaCare Works For Those Who Don't.)
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To: angry elephant

But Nazism and Communism are both leftist just that Nazism is slightly to the right of Communism.

Nazism controls the means of production whereas Communism owns the means of production.


Exactly. The NAZIs (National Socialists) were considered middle of the road leftists in their time.

It was only after International Socialist triumphed that they labeled NAZIs “far right”.

In fact, both are different versions of leftism.


23 posted on 10/16/2017 4:29:05 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: dfwgator
The goals of communism, and left-wing radicalism in general, may not be as blatantly repugnant as the goals of ...right-wing radicalism.

That is a false comparison for us in the U.S. Arguably, if properly enforced by the judiciary our Constitution, most specifically its Bill of Rights, protects us from right-wing radicalism.

24 posted on 10/16/2017 4:29:14 PM PDT by frog in a pot
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To: SJackson

Do you ever wonder why Communists always use the term “Fascist” instead of “Nazi”, even when referring to the Germans, even though only Italy was technically Fascist?

Could it be because they knew that Nazi stood for “National Socialist”, and it would be admitting that their enemies were fellow socialists?


25 posted on 10/16/2017 4:29:49 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator; SJackson

Not sure how that happened, I intended to respond to SJ.


26 posted on 10/16/2017 4:32:28 PM PDT by frog in a pot
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To: SJackson

They are both dialectics created by the powers that be to create a strategy of tension for controlling the world.

Communism came out of Marx and Engals in London and Nazism was created from the Thule society, also out of England. Oh, and so is Zionism by Lord Palmerston in 1840 when he said the Jews desired to return to their homeland, England again.


27 posted on 10/16/2017 4:32:53 PM PDT by Vic S
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To: SJackson

Marxist regimes killed hundreds of millions and Nazis killed 9 million. But Communists had more time. I think it works out to Communists slightly ahead.


28 posted on 10/16/2017 4:34:03 PM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: SJackson

My maternal grandfather, a Party member and an aviation engineer, sometimes said to my grandma, “If they arrest me, please don’t believe that I’m an enemy of the people.” ...................................... LOL, Tovarish, we found your copy of the Saturday Evening Post, you are sentenced to 10 years at the mines in the arctic circle for reading capitalist lies . Of course if you survive the 1st year, you may not be of the best health to last the next one. Not to worry, if you die you will be buried in the frozen tundra never to be found. All records will be burned and those responsible for your death will never be prosecuted. We, Tovarish, are much smarter than our stupid German counter parts who kept precise records.

Yeah, we gave the great Soviets a free ride, after all they were our allies. Forced labor was used after the revolution, there were no benefits, but they did get a free lunch and a place to sleep. They went on strike too, but it didn’t last long it was quickly resolved with bullets and bludgeons. Sorry I give the prize for the most killings of innocent people to Uncle Joe. The worst part he signed documents to OK it. He was proud of it.


29 posted on 10/16/2017 4:34:09 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Damn, the tag line disappeared again? Coursors!)
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To: SJackson

Socialism combined with internationalism is communism

Socialism combined with extreme nationalism is fascism


30 posted on 10/16/2017 4:36:52 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: SJackson

There is no difference. Different uniforms and flags, but he exact same concepts and points of view.


31 posted on 10/16/2017 4:37:41 PM PDT by CodeToad (CWII is coming. Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: golux
No communist or fascist regime has ever been able to survive without a secret police: there is the key similarity.

One thing I learned fairly recently...much to my surprise...is that Simon Weisental (the famous Nazi hunter and camp survivor) was once quoted as saying that the Stasi was worse than the Gestapo.

Pretty strong stuff,IMO...even if the Stasi was only equally psychopathic.

32 posted on 10/16/2017 4:37:46 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (ObamaCare Works For Those Who Don't.)
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To: SJackson

Both are socialist. There is no true communism. Everything is socialism,,communism is the end goal of,socialism and socialism never can be complete.


33 posted on 10/16/2017 4:37:56 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SJackson

Fascism and Communism are neither right nor conservative in today’s American context. Both are left., and only by a matter of degrees. While conservatives want smaller, less invasive government both Fascism and Communism want a government based on totalitarianism. Both of these movements want total control of society by the government.

The reality is that conservatives want a small government. They want freedom. And they want the constitution to be followed. Our goal is to have a government that spends less, taxes less, respects private property and individual freedoms. And while Communists don’t want any private property, Nazi’s are not far behind in their ability to take your property and your freedom. And like the communists, Nazis try to define right and wrong. Not just legal and illegal.

As conservatives we should never allow Fascism to be defined as far right. Its far left.


34 posted on 10/16/2017 4:45:19 PM PDT by poinq
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To: SJackson

>>Some whose life’s work is focused on the Holocaust, such as the Simon Wiesenthal Center’s Ephraim Zuroff, also object to what they see as a pernicious false symmetry.

Gulags and mass executions.

Same. Whether it was in Eastern Europe or Far East Asia.


35 posted on 10/16/2017 4:46:33 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: SJackson

Communism and National Socialism (Nazism) are both extreme left.

American conservatism is on the other side of the political/economic spectrum.

It is disingenuous (and intended to deceive) to call Nazism “extreme right”. Such a characterization serves no other purpose than to conflate conservatism and free economic systems with “Nazism”. Nothing could be further than the truth.

The collective left in this country with their desire to control business using the levers of government are closely aligned with National Socialism and Fascism. The so-called “anti-fascist” organization Antifa won’t even allow conservatives to exercise their rights of assembly and free speech. They are nothing more than a gang of Nazi thugs with truncheons, masks, and black shirts.


36 posted on 10/16/2017 4:46:52 PM PDT by nonsporting
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To: sparklite2

Motorcycle bikers and other “outlaws” were extreme right?


37 posted on 10/16/2017 4:48:25 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: SJackson

Look at the most stable Communist state today, China, and some of the varients, compare it to the Nazis, they are basically the same. The rhetoric is a little different but a lot of time has gone by. A Chinese citizen has as much power to speak out as a Nazi did. The economic systems are almost identical.


38 posted on 10/16/2017 4:48:47 PM PDT by Dennis M.
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To: SJackson

Countries have learned to accept communism. No one every learned to accept naziism.

rwood


39 posted on 10/16/2017 4:49:00 PM PDT by Redwood71
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To: sparklite2

Is David Duke to the right of Ronald Reagan?


40 posted on 10/16/2017 4:49:15 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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