Posted on 10/16/2017 4:51:39 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
Love, Honor, and Cherish
Keeping us Only unto each other
Til Death do us Part
Oath taken Voluntarily,
Without Intent to Deceive,
Before God and Witnesses
One cannot break an Oath without breaking themselves
I cannot let myself out of this Oath
Only God can do this (not the Church incidentally)
and He has spoken Clearly on this subject
Annulment, after consummation, is an illusion
Divorce, and Remarriage is an abomination
The Oath Binds whether I like it or not
The Oath Binds whether the Church supports it or not
Oh Yes, I am not a Catholic, merely a follower of Christ
https://pjpiitheo.wordpress.com/tag/josephite-marriage/
Marriage vows are taken very seriously in all major religions, including Catholicism. Why people single out that faith is beyond me.
I, too, am not allowed to receive the sacraments because I am married to a divorced Catholic man. That was my decision and I take an adult attitude towards it. I refuse to blame the Church for my actions.
on a hillside/field away from stores and you haven’t eaten in hours because you were listening to Jesus preach I could see it, but this guy was not in that situation at all, was a church member or so he told me as he and his child ate and then dropped child at church day care before service. Why even go inside for service then? Could just sit outside and eat till his heart was content.
Today we are forced to obey the Gods of the Crotch Culture.
So you say. The Bible says to follow the will of God.
We had heaven until Adam disobeyed God.
Yes now we have wars and other suffering.
God made man and woman for creation of children, not to cause wars.
>>Yeah well, God hates divorce but doesn’t forbid it; and the adultery thing was so fathers could know with certainty who their kids are, after menopause, it doesn’t matter, now does it?
>>Am I not a different person than I was at age 25? If I now understand that people can relate in a fun supportive way and I don’t have to be a doormat in a relationship, do I have to stay stuck with my torturer?
God knows that humans are all sinners. That is fully unacceptable to him, so and I are totally screwed.
But through the work of Jesus on the cross and through his perfectly sinless life, we can be made righteous despite ourselves.
So, it’s not ok that you divorce unless your spouse is unfaithful. But that’s just one sin among thousands that condemn you. Jesus washes them all away. That’s the scriptural answer. If you think it’s ok because cultures change and times change, so God must change, then you have a problem. The mainline denominations and liberal non-denoms make the mistake of demanding that God’s standards are outdated and must change.
Well said.
Yeah well, good luck with that, maybe you are one of the lucky ones, but for some of us, what was meant for good has dealt evil.
Yeah well he was unfaithful, and despite the fact that I kept the house spotless, was thin and not fat, was not an alcoholic, a gambler, a drug user, gave him sex whenever he wanted it, stay at home mom, devoted to my family, and the worst name I ever called him was “jerk”, made holidays for his family for 23 years, had dinner every night on table at 6, and we had no debt, it wasn’t good enough, he took up with his college girlfriend, who was also a Democrat and a millionaire, whose husband was in prison and I got left in the cold. Now annulled by Catholic church, waiting for God to bring love and not horror into my life, apparently hopelessly, as God hasn’t done diddly for me.
Your situation is indeed lamentable. That said, you are still quite angry about it. It might be easier for God to come to your aid if you allowed your natural goodness, which you have in abundance, to come to the fore. Only with God will you find peace and the ability to forgive the grievous wrongs you have endured.
You bet I am pis8ed, not to mention how he hurt our kids.
An angry mother is not helpful though. In this I speak from experience.
I am not angry to them. They are pis8ed about it too.
“We had heaven until Adam disobeyed God.”
So an entire race gets punished because of the actions of one man.
Seems fair.
Not.
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Orthodox Judaism has the same mores as always. But reform or liberal Judaism accepts ANYTHING just about. They seem to still be fixated on only one main sex partner. And two humans. Abortion ok (sad about it but it’s ok). Whereas the orthodox position on abortion is woefully outdated, where a baby is only a baby once he draws his breath, so they do allow abortion in Judaism, however, a good rabbi will do everything to persuade the woman not to abort. We must choose life. However, in the end, if the mother is devastated and doing very poorly, they will not reject her from the fold if she goes ahead with it.
The country hasn't gone completely mad. Things do tend to stabilize behind the scenes over time. But you can't expect that people are going to talk as they did a half-century ago. They want to at least feel freer in their private life than their grandparents did.
Of course, that's an overall picture. Some communities are harder hit by the changes that have happened since the 1960s than others. So the reality where you live may differ substantially from the general picture.
I’m very sorry. Marriage is so difficult. I’ve failed while being a great wife like you describe, and I sure don’t want another husband, just a boyfriend with his own life would be great. I never want to have a controlling mean person in my house with me, because I become the victim too easily apparently, always trying to be fair and make things work. Marriage only works if both people give a damn.
I know, I am always the loyal one that gets ditched. Unlike you though, I am super lonely and want someone to love me.
Don’t get me wrong. I’m lonely for male companionship too! May we both find someone special. (Finding conservatives in LA is a bit tough and no lefty man would get near a Trump supporter! You’re going to win the race depending on your location. Lol.)
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