Once promised paradise, IS fighters end up in mass graves

The Jakarta Post ^ | October 15, 2017 | Ammar Karim and Maher al-Mounes Agence France-Presse

[unlearner]

“Guess they found out ‘allah’ is actually Satan.”

Allah is the Arabic name for God. Arabic-speaking Jews and Christians use the same title because it is the only word for God in that language. In fact, Jews and Christians who spoke Arabic long before Islam existed referred to God in Arabic as “Allah.”

Perhaps by referring to “allah” with a lower-case first letter, you may be correctly identifying that Islam’s deity is not the true God or even true “Allah” if we were to say it in Arabic.

The only clarification I would add to your statement is that it is “their ‘allah’.” Clearly they, like many religious people, serve a god who is not the true God.

[SaveFerris]

Yes, they do it in error.

It was never a name for God in the Scriptures. Not once.

No surprise many of them can’t differentiate.

[Kazan]

What an appropriate way for these demonic a-holes to die with their bodies being eaten by dogs.

[Rummyfan]

Once promised paradise, IS fighters end up in mass graves...

Where they belong.

[Big Red Badger]

Eaten by Dogs...

That’s a shame.
/s

[353FMG]

But where is their dear leader, Al-Baghdadi?

[unlearner]

“It was never a name for God in the Scriptures. Not once.”

That’s incorrect.

“Allah” is Arabic. The original scriptures were not Arabic or English. (In fact, English did not even exist.) The Bible was originally Hebrew and Greek.

So “God” is only in our English Bibles because that is the English title for God. In Arabic Bibles, both Jewish and Christian translations, “Allah” is always used when referring to God by His title.

Furthermore, “Allah” has been the Arabic title for God long before there was an English Bible or English title for God. (He was also called “Allah” in Arabic long before Islam existed.) There were Arabs present when the Church began on the day of Pentecost nearly two millennia ago. On that day, it appears that only Jews were present, but many were from remote regions and had various primary languages. Some of these Jews spoke Arabic. And, as far as history can tell us, “Allah” was the word they used for God all the way back then.

That being the case, God would have been referred to on the very day the Church came into existence as “Allah” in the hearing of those who were natively Arabic speakers.

Acts 2:4-12
And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
And there were dwelling in Jerusalem Jews, devout men, from every nation under heaven. And when this sound occurred, the multitude came together, and were confused, because everyone heard them speak in his own language. Then they were all amazed and marveled, saying to one another, “Look, are not all these who speak Galileans? And how is it that we hear, each in our own language in which we were born? Parthians and Medes and Elamites, those dwelling in Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya adjoining Cyrene, visitors from Rome, both Jews and proselytes, Cretans and Arabs—we hear them speaking in our own tongues the wonderful works of God.” So they were all amazed and perplexed, saying to one another, “Whatever could this mean?”

Pay particular attention to the word “Arabs” above. What was the native word for God to these Jewish people? If you look at the Arabic translations of Old Testament scriptures, you will find that it is “Allah.”

So, on the day of Pentecost, the day the Church began, the day when the Holy Spirit came, followers of Christ proclaimed God’s message of salvation and was heard by these Jews in their native languages. One of those languages appears to be Arabic. This means when they heard about God, the word used to identify God to them was “Allah.”

This is why it is important for Christians to be careful about mocking “Allah.” Islam did not invent “Allah.” They simply commandeered His title like all false religions do.

I’m sure you recognize that not all who identify themselves as “Christian” are true followers of Jesus. But you also recognize that it would be wrong to mock Jesus because of those who misrepresent Him. Jesus is also only the English name for the Savior. The sounds we make when pronouncing His name are not the same sounds that people used when they called Him by His name back then. So, hopefully you can appreciate why I am addressing the importance of not maligning the title “Allah,” not out of respect for the false religion of Islam, but out of respect for the one, true God.

[Eleutheria5]

Like you, I have reservations about calling "Allah" a moon god, because "Deus" and "Theos" is actually a transliteration of the Greek word for Zeus; i.e., ζευσ or θεοσ, the Greek god of lightning. With reservations, I would say that "Allah" refers to a single god who created everything and has no physical form. I don't know what the Islamic concept of Satan is, but I totally reject the idea prevalent among some Christians that Satan is an anti-G-d who is at war with the Creator and a threat to Him. That flies in the face of monotheism imho. But the Islamic idea about the afterlife for mujaahidiin being one big f@#$k-fest are beyond the pale. It's basically monotheistic Valhalla without the constant battlefield scene, just the victory feast after the battle. An illiterate moron's notion of Heaven.

[Bonemaker]

““...the Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights estimates some 50,000 IS members have been killed.”

Its a start.

[M Kehoe]

Feel good story of the day.

5.56mm

[SkyPilot]

I don't follow your logic at all.

You statements make about as much sense as Wikipedia's spin:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah_as_Moon-god

It says there:

Morey argues that "Allah" was the name of a moon god in pre-Islamic Arabic mythology, the implication being that "Allah" as the term for God in Islam implies that Muslims worship a different deity than the Judeo-Christian one.

Well, they do. Allah is not YHWH, Elohim, or Adonai.

Even in Pre-Islamic Arabia, all variations of "Allah" were pagan. None of those peoples worshipped the one and true God.

In fact, there is more evidence that "allah" is really Ba'al.

Ferris is correct that the current "allah" being worshipped is really Satan.

The acts and atrocities done in the name of the Islamic "god" are the most evil on the planet.

[FreedomStar3028]

Pretty sure that ISIS was already cornered in Raqqa when Trump was sworn in by mostly non-American forces.

[eyedigress]

I take it that your stand as thus.......

ISIS was defeated long before President Trump.

That is a yes or no question.

[unlearner]

“I totally reject the idea prevalent among some Christians that Satan is an anti-G-d who is at war with the Creator and a threat to Him. That flies in the face of monotheism imho. But the Islamic idea about the afterlife for mujaahidiin being one big [orgy] are beyond the pale.”

I agree. Satan is no anti-God. There is only one God, the Creator. Satan is a created being, or at the very least formed from a created being. Perhaps a perverted form of something once good.

Jesus described Satan as a murderer and liar “from the beginning” which I take to be a reference to the 6-day creation and forming of the world and living things. But Jesus also said that Satan “abode not in the truth” which I take to mean that he at least knew the truth and was not created evil. Evil was a choice for Satan.

We see in the Hebrew scriptures that Satan did not really want to discuss Job with God, and he could not harm Job because God protected him. So Satan was only able to attack Job by first getting permission from God. This makes it clear that Satan has not the slightest amount of power against God.

I’ve always wondered about the strange idea of paradise for Muslims. Seems like they are describing something that would be hell for women at least. Not much different from how they make their societies in the present, never mind the afterlife.

[Fantasywriter]

It was Trump who set the stage for ISIS’ destruction. This is something Obama would never have done:

‘Trump Tells Mattis He Can Use Entire Military To Destroy ISIS’

http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/27/trump-tells-mattis-he-can-use-entire-military-to-destroy-isis/

[COBOL2Java]

The previous resident of the White House did a lot of buttering, but it wasn’t toast.

[eyedigress]

Your defense of Baraq the Great is worthless.

He might be great in Kenya or Indonesia with his Muslim Bro’s but not here.

[FreedomStar3028]

That’s a really stupid question to ask because obviously ISIS is still not defeated. But 90% of the territory they took was taken back.

[Fred Nerks]

Interesting comment under the article, reminded me of you:

A liberal friend of mine experienced what you're going through. Trump would enter his head constantly. He'd be eating, CNN would run a Trump story (he was tuned in 24/7), and just like that, no appetite. He lost about 35 lbs in 8 weeks. He'd try to relax, then a new Trump tweet would surface, and his day was ruined. Sex was also a flop - images of pussy-grabbing would course through his brain and he couldn't get it up (I had to take care of his wife). He refused to go outside, fearing that a red MAGA hat or (God forbid) an American Flag would appear. All he does now is lay on the couch in his soiled underwear, sob, eat junk food, and change pantsuits on his Hillary doll. It's pathetic.

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Tickled me pink when I read it.

[FreedomStar3028]

I thought the Bible made it clear that Angels did not have free will. That free will was unique to mankind.

Then Satan and his Angel pals were created for the purpose of being a antagonistic force.

It’s clear that God wanted to test humanities free will, why else would he tell them to not eat from the tree of knowledge? That wouldn’t be a good enough test, so he had to make something that would tempt them. They failed. But why test it if you knew the outcome? There are a lot of plot holes.

I’m not saying I don’t believe, but I do have questions. Lots of them.