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To: unlearner
Like you, I have reservations about calling "Allah" a moon god, because "Deus" and "Theos" is actually a transliteration of the Greek word for Zeus; i.e., ζευσ or θεοσ, the Greek god of lightning. With reservations, I would say that "Allah" refers to a single god who created everything and has no physical form. I don't know what the Islamic concept of Satan is, but I totally reject the idea prevalent among some Christians that Satan is an anti-G-d who is at war with the Creator and a threat to Him. That flies in the face of monotheism imho. But the Islamic idea about the afterlife for mujaahidiin being one big f@#$k-fest are beyond the pale. It's basically monotheistic Valhalla without the constant battlefield scene, just the victory feast after the battle. An illiterate moron's notion of Heaven.
48 posted on 10/15/2017 1:03:26 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Eleutheria5

“I totally reject the idea prevalent among some Christians that Satan is an anti-G-d who is at war with the Creator and a threat to Him. That flies in the face of monotheism imho. But the Islamic idea about the afterlife for mujaahidiin being one big [orgy] are beyond the pale.”

I agree. Satan is no anti-God. There is only one God, the Creator. Satan is a created being, or at the very least formed from a created being. Perhaps a perverted form of something once good.

Jesus described Satan as a murderer and liar “from the beginning” which I take to be a reference to the 6-day creation and forming of the world and living things. But Jesus also said that Satan “abode not in the truth” which I take to mean that he at least knew the truth and was not created evil. Evil was a choice for Satan.

We see in the Hebrew scriptures that Satan did not really want to discuss Job with God, and he could not harm Job because God protected him. So Satan was only able to attack Job by first getting permission from God. This makes it clear that Satan has not the slightest amount of power against God.

I’ve always wondered about the strange idea of paradise for Muslims. Seems like they are describing something that would be hell for women at least. Not much different from how they make their societies in the present, never mind the afterlife.


54 posted on 10/15/2017 1:26:47 PM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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