When you are 32 floors up and your target is a crowd of tens of thousands crowded in front of a stage, accuracy is not an issue.
Posted on 10/02/2017 8:58:36 AM PDT by doug from upland
Opinion is divided this morning on Twitter among people who, unlike me, know more than the most basic basics about firearms. It’s not a matter of mere curiosity; as you (should) know, fully automatic weapons have been illegal in the U.S. for decades, which is why even mass shooters hellbent on murder unto death never use them. If Stephen Paddock used a machine gun, how on earth did he get it?
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Yes, you’re correct. He could get a $250,000 fine and 10 years prison for “manufacturing a post-1986 machinegun”.
I travel for work all the time and stay in a LOT of hotels. If you put your "Do not disturb" sign on the door, they won't come in, period. I even know people who do this as a matter of course and never have maid service when they stay at hotels.
That's if your lucky! F Troop loves to kill and gas kids, shoot woment holding babies, stomp cats, plant "drop in auto sears" while serving a warrant, and smuggling guns to drug cartels. Lucky if you make it out alive!
.223/5.56 rounds do not tumble until after hitting hydrostatic medium I.e. flesh.
Easy to hit 12" gongs at 400 yds with an AR or AK.
He was shooting into a tightly packed huge crowd.
Vegas would be devoid of life if all the FFLs started using their equipment outside their hotel room during the SHOT show...but liberals want you to believe its the guns fault.
It’s actually a bit higher than I thought. The 175,000 “transferable” machine guns—the only ones that can really be owned by the general public—are what are left over from the finite supply of such weapons that were existing and registered (”lawfully possessed”) in May 1986. That’s why they are so expensive to buy.
The bottom line is, yes, it is legal for John Q. Public to buy and own a fully-automatic firearm, so long as he finds one of the few still around, jumps through the normal NFA hoops and pays the tax, and so long as he is willing to pay five figures for a gun with 30-year-old-plus parts and no warranty.
I won’t get into the whole issue with post-ban “samples,” which make up most of the remainder of the 490,000—you can find a lot written online about how an FFL can obtain one of those for personal use, but I think anyone who does so is taking a big risk.
When you are 32 floors up and your target is a crowd of tens of thousands crowded in front of a stage, accuracy is not an issue.
Nope I had one and they are quite inaccurate. He was hitting targets. Plus mine used to do burst a lot.
There are several design changes in an AR 15 to not allow multiple firings per trigger pull.
A knowledgeable smith can do it by making new parts. It is pretty hard to do.
If you put a little do not disturb sign out, the maid service won’t go in. Easypeasy.
I Forgot about that!
I wouldn’t want to leave my guns in a hotel room, while I ‘enjoyed a night in Vegas’.
For some reason, my first thought upon initially hearing the audio was that it was significantly higher than that, but now I'm 'not sure.
It's almost like the video (audio) was sped up the first time I heard it...
I don’t like to leave them unattended either. If it were me, that’s when I would make sure it was after the maids were gone for the day, and I’d have the do not disturb sign up, and my things locked away as well as the room permitted and my locked container bags permitted. As a rule I don’t like to even leave the hotel room unoccupied. But I would much rather do that than to leave them locked in a car overnight down in a garage or parking lot.
My point was that there ARE people who would do that, and it would not be unusual to see them carting their cases up to the room at the end of a day.
By law in most states, it is legal for you to have a gun in your place of domicile whether that is your home, hotel, or campsite. Its just the getting around between home and hotel that creates all the carry issues.
As a very experienced ex infantry type. I listened to the audio and I’m certain it was a belt fed 7.62.
Something like a c6 with gas turned down to a lower setting.
Thanks, at the time of the conversation, the teams had just been picked and I had to take the field.........I should see him Wednesday and I'll get more information about the shotgun.
Thanks Laz, I’ll try to get more info from the guy on Wednesday.........Hope your new kitty is adjusting well bro.......
Got into an argument today about full autos. My closing argument was to check online gun auctions for an M-16 in "good" condition. He won't find one for less than $20K............
I never wanted a Class C firearm. I had a dealer offer me a Ruger AC566 when I left a couple of firearms with him on consignment. Didn’t go for that either.
I understand the ‘domicile’ issue as a legal point. But a hotel room isn’t really that - all kinds of people have or can easily acquire access to that room - people about whom you know nothing. I wouldn’t leave my jewelry in one unattended, much less a gun.
We’re currently renters, and my husband doesn’t even keep his guns here in this home. Too much to worry about.
I thought this kind of thing was why nice hotels have house safes that you can use...
Not a lawyer so I would deny anything I say in this regard anyway, but I can only speak for my local state and states I am familiar with. Most have whats commonly referred to as “Castle Law”. That means you can never be denied the ability to defend your home or domicile against threat to life or great bodily harm. That includes temporary residences, including public campgrounds. Of course that doesn’t mean you can carry between camps sites or down the hall to the hotel lobby.
I also concur that its not wise to leave gun, or other valuables if you cant secure them against theft or otherwise, so every situation should be thought out ahead of time, before you realize you have no place to secure your firearm.
I can completely understand your families concerns about how to secure guns on your rental property. For that situation maybe a gun safe makes sense, one that cant be picked up and walked off with. No one, at least in the states I am aware of, can preclude you from having a gun to protect yourself at your home. Of course you may consciously be deciding you don’t want a gun for defense in the home. That’s your choice too.
However, if you ever find yourself where you need the gun for self defense, it does no good lock up in storage, your other home, or a hotel safe (unless you mean a room safe, which will work for hand guns, but probably not for long guns). Also, if you have to secure them in a hotel safe in the lobby, you probably just told the whole world, “hey, I have guns, but don’t worry, they are locked where I cant get them now.” That’s not something I would want to advertise.
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