“Correcting” History

AMAC Opinion Page ^ | 8/16/17 | Diana Erbio

[Baynative]

The scenario George Orwell created in his novel “1984”, seems less and less like fiction. Winston Smith, the main character, worked at the Truth Ministry where he “corrected” records. The internet was not yet the route where information flowed. It was newspapers, books, periodicals, pamphlets, posters, leaflets, films, sound tracks, cartoons, photographs and every kind of literature or documentation which might contain any political or ideological significance that were subject to “correction”.

As soon as Winston’s “correction” was made, the original was destroyed. Day by day, and almost minute by minute the past was brought up to date. All written records were to agree with the Party version of the past. Anything that was not in agreement was to be thrown in a memory hole, never to be recalled again.

[HiTech RedNeck]

You are obtuse? Maybe you followed politics but never followed principle?

[HiTech RedNeck]

That’s whistling Dixie.

Dixie had virtues. God gave them. Dixie abused them. God said “enough.”

What if in some hypothetical alternative time line, Dixie had taken the heart to turn the slaves into freedmen? And made that its answer to the problems with the North? Come down here slaves and you can be free!

[Pelham]

If you think you can patronize me with what you imagine is your intellect you are greatly mistaken.

Now see if you can clarify what your vague “obligation model rather than the freedom model” means to you. Assuming it’s more than the word salad it appears to be.

[HiTech RedNeck]

The best Southern heritage is the redneck. Of any color.

Why is his neck red? HE PICKS HIS OWN COTTON PICKING COTTON THAT’S WHY.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Why? You don’t want this to be about basic principle. You want this to be about intellectualized nit picking.

Come back when head serves heart.

[Pelham]

“Well, Congress may have been gracious about it but still the whole issue just begs for context. Surely we didn’t intend to hallow the Civil war era Lee posthumously? “

“General Robert E. Lee was, in my estimation, one of the supremely gifted men produced by our Nation. He believed unswervingly in the Constitutional validity of his cause which until 1865 was still an arguable question in America; he was a poised and inspiring leader, true to the high trust reposed in him by millions of his fellow citizens; he was thoughtful yet demanding of his officers and men, forbearing with captured enemies but ingenious, unrelenting and personally courageous in battle, and never disheartened by a reverse or obstacle. Through all his many trials, he remained selfless almost to a fault and unfailing in his faith in God. Taken altogether, he was noble as a leader and as a man, and unsullied as I read the pages of our history.

“From deep conviction, I simply say this: a nation of men of Lee’s calibre would be unconquerable in spirit and soul. Indeed, to the degree that present-day American youth will strive to emulate his rare qualities, including his devotion to this land as revealed in his painstaking efforts to help heal the Nation’s wounds once the bitter struggle was over, we, in our own time of danger in a divided world, will be strengthened and our love of freedom sustained.

Such are the reasons that I proudly display the picture of this great American on my office wall.

Sincerely,

Dwight D. Eisenhower

Source:
Dwight D. Eisenhower Presidential Library, “Dwight D. Eisenhower, Records as President, 1953-1961; White House Central Files, President’s Personal File Series, Box 743, Folder: PPF 29-S Lee, General Robert E.”

[Pelham]

“Why? You don’t want this to be about basic principle. You want this to be about intellectualized nit picking.”

I never said anything of the sort, despite your shameless dissembling.

I asked you to explain what you meant by “The obligation model rather than the freedom model” and instead of providing an answer you’ve resorted twice to insult.

I have a good idea why, but in case you actually have something resembling an idea in mind I wanted to see what it is.

Try again. It shouldn’t be hard since you ought to know what you mean by your own phrase “obligation model” and “freedom model”.

[jughandle]

So when the radical left finally get their way, America is gone, everyone is “equal”, and everyone does as they say...what are they going to complain about?

[HiTech RedNeck]

You showed it by your actions, and are projecting, which you also show by your actions.

Try to define yourself all you like. It’s what you do that defines you.

Dissemble on!

[HiTech RedNeck]

But if you ever come to the point of agreeing to sanity on first principles, then the details can be delved into.

[tumblindice]

But servantboy is right. The south wanted a divorce but the north did not. That was it...... Lincoln's own words to Horace Greeley: : "If I could save the union without freeing any slave, I would do it." http://www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/lincoln/speeches/greeley.htm ....... Neckbeard issued his EO after all-night tequila drinking bout with Seward, Mary and others--a `proclamation' that claimed to emancipate personal property of the enemy ... hmmm, after an arguable victory at Antietam. It's sole purpose was to keep the limeys out of the war. Period. The John Bulls had assigned advisors, welcomed by Confederate units (anything to jam a stick in Yankee Doodle's spokes) but they also had a strong abolitionist lobby back home...... so you're wrong HiTech. Wrong wrong wrong. NOW you have to say: "Here's to Cardinal Puff for the very last time" and chug a pitcher of beer. You're a daisy if you don't. So do it. Do. It. Drink up.

[tumblindice]

(By the way, this thread was about something other than the War Between the States, and you hijacked this thread you rascal you.)

[Rembrandt]

I recall only a couple of months ago, a Democrat make a crude inference that George Wallace was a Republican - the statement went unchallenged by the interviewer who probably slept thru history class in high school.

[Pelham]

Really?

So I should just invent my own definition for your phrase “obligation model versus freedom model” instead of asking you what the hell it means?

How is that supposed to work, exactly?

I’ve seen odd phrases before like “immanentize the eschaton”, but at least Bill Buckley and Eric Voegelin bothered to explain what it meant.

Of course in that case the phrase actually does mean something in political science and theology both. Since you either won’t or can’t offer a definition of your own phrase I suspect that it may just be something that you cooked up thinking that it sounds impressive and will leave the rubes speechless.

[trebb]

Not too long before they start raiding libraries to destroy historical books/records.....

[servantboy777]

http://www.scv.org/new/

Help preserve Southern Heritage

[servantboy777]

Good Ol Abe did not in his heart believe the blacks could assimilate into the American society. Good bad or ugly, it is the truth. Lincoln kicked around the idea with others in the Senate of colonizing the blacks to the Caribbean/Africa.

The revisionist have perverted history and many parrot it over and over. This is exactly why the removal of history is necessary in our country in order to transform it into a socialist style state.

Many fall for it, hook, line and sinker. So very sad.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Complete with just what?

[HiTech RedNeck]

America, especially the South, was so bad even the kind of Lincoln you allege would be better.

[Aut Pax Aut Bellum]

1984 should be mandatory reading for anyone seeking to achieve Level 1 Freeperhood.
I started to read it again (got it free on a digital format)about a month ago. Simply amazing and eyeopening. I read it in high school, but now in my later adult life, it really hits home much more. Plus the times have evolved to mirror the book.