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Prehistoric mitochondrial DNA suggest 13th century exodus from the northern US southwest
journals.plos.org/ ^ | uly 26, 2017

Posted on 08/10/2017 10:26:26 AM PDT by ckilmer

Science

Archaeologists discover evidence of a vanished civilisation from 1300s

 Lucy Pasha-Robinson,The Independent 5 hours ago 


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: americanindians; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; indians; plos; pollywannacracker; pueblo
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To: HLPhat

This is why I never eat an Indian Taco.

There might be somebody you know in it.


21 posted on 08/10/2017 11:27:56 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: ckilmer

What? Climate change before SUVs? How can that be?


22 posted on 08/10/2017 11:32:32 AM PDT by TruthWillWin (The problem wiath socialists is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: ckilmer; Migraine

This was also right about the beginning of the Little Ice Age, too. Maybe a correlation there.


23 posted on 08/10/2017 11:33:22 AM PDT by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Socialist Mafia.)
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To: ckilmer
such a stretch....ancient man and his turkeys...

however, isn't it interesting that they never mention WAR as a reason their civilization was destroyed or forced to move...

that would mean the evil Indians kicked them out...

24 posted on 08/10/2017 11:36:09 AM PDT by cherry
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To: webheart

‘living harmoniousy with the animals’

the domestic turkeys were not invited to comment...


25 posted on 08/10/2017 11:38:19 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: Migraine
Good points.

Nobody likes to point this out because it isn't politically correct, but they also were not very good a managing their resources. They used a lot of wood, but never planted any trees to replace the ones they cut down. Kind of odd, since they were good farmers. After a few hundred years the trees were gone in the southwest, and the topsoil blown away. The land is still recovering.

26 posted on 08/10/2017 11:39:58 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: dirtymac

No, it is communist revisionism: Common Era & Before Common Era.

As usual, they do not invent, they subvert. The timeline is still based upon the life of Jesus Christ.


27 posted on 08/10/2017 11:51:07 AM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - JRRT)
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To: HLPhat

That was a fascinating rabbit trail to hop down!


28 posted on 08/10/2017 12:25:54 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl (Don't check the news, check Cernovich on Twitter)
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To: Gman

lmao


29 posted on 08/10/2017 1:38:47 PM PDT by AAABEST (Got Traditional Catholicism? - Angelqueen.org)
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To: ckilmer

Just looking at that photo, it’s pretty obvious what happened. Those black marks on the ceiling of the cave are smoke smudges. Caused by burning wood. Which releases CO2. Which causes global warming. Which results in extended droughts and desertification.

No wonder they had to move


30 posted on 08/10/2017 1:51:41 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals.")
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To: Gman

Canyon de Chelly is the only National Park I’ve ever been to that explicitly forbids the possession of alcohol.

I was hassled about it by a park ranger, even.

Reason? It is surrounded entirely by a res full of people with substance abuse problems. Seems the gov’t feels compelled to protect people from themselves.


31 posted on 08/11/2017 9:36:56 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Trump's election does not release you from your prepping responsibilites!)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...
Note: this topic is from 8/10/2017. Thanks ckilmer.

32 posted on 07/31/2018 2:07:00 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Migraine

Read Louis L’Amour’s novel, “Haunted Mesa”

The Anasazi mystery is the foundation of his story. And he’s a great American western author, so it’sa good read..


33 posted on 07/31/2018 6:32:27 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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To: xzins

Thanks for the suggestion.


34 posted on 07/31/2018 7:53:30 AM PDT by Migraine
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To: ckilmer

An Interesting Read:

The Zuni Enigma

"Did a group of thirteenth-century Japanese merge with the people, language, and religion of the Zuni tribe? For many years, anthropologists have understood the Zuni in the American Southwest to occupy a special place in Native American culture and ethnography. Their language, religion, and blood type are startlingly different from all other tribes. Most puzzling, the Zuni appear to have much in common with the people of Japan. In a book with groundbreaking implications, Dr. Nancy Yaw Davis examines the evidence underscoring the Zuni enigma and suggests..."

35 posted on 07/31/2018 11:51:10 AM PDT by blam
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To: ckilmer; SunkenCiv

Drought is a killer in the U.S. Southwest. Someone just published a study on the disappearance of the Mayans as being consistent with a massive drought that last for centuries.

I wonder if the time line here would also be tht of the Central American drought. I don’t have time to research any correspondence but its a thought.


36 posted on 07/31/2018 12:01:33 PM PDT by wildbill (Quis Custodiet ipsos custodes? Who watches the watchmen?)
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To: wildbill; SunkenCiv

Drought in the Yucatan among the Maya started about 800 AD. It corresponds with the medieval warm in northern europe that started at the same time. Whereas the medieval warm caused a population explosion among the vikings and sent their population all over europe and russia—the same medieval warm caused drought in central america and population collapse.

In the mississipi valley there was a period of lessened rainfall that enabled indians from the plains to settle on some of the richest farmlands in north america in southeast illinios where they built the earth pyramids there.

The climate became colder and wetter starting in the 1300’s. The jungles grew over the mayan homelands. The vikings were forced out of greenland. The cahokia pyramid builders were flooded out.

The southwest at this time experienced drought—according to the article. So I’m not sure how that fits.


37 posted on 07/31/2018 12:17:05 PM PDT by ckilmer (q e)
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To: ckilmer

Been to Mesa Verde a couple of times. Awesome place. What we actually know is that the Anasazi were there, and then they weren’t. The rest is speculation. But I highly recommend the park.


38 posted on 07/31/2018 12:25:47 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: ckilmer

/bingo


39 posted on 07/31/2018 3:43:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: wildbill

There’s a real heartbeat to the boom-bust of Central American civs; Teotihuacan was, if memory serves, built by the Toltecs, and so impressed later cultures that they attributed it to divine construction.


40 posted on 07/31/2018 3:58:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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