Posted on 08/04/2017 11:41:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
There's nothing like the sight of Republicans and Democrats working together and scrambling to save big time government aid to super-rich corporations. Whether it's a bailout for major banks, tax credits for Big Oil, or big subsidies for large agriculture businesses, this kind of crony capitalism seems to anger almost everyone but nobody really does anything about it.
Now, we're about to witness another scramble to provide our hard-earned taxpayer money into the pockets of an industry that's already raking in the big bucks. The Senate Health Committee is going to hold hearings in September to find ways to keep the Obamacare subsidies sent to health insurance companies alive so the insurance exchanges don't implode as so many people are predicting.
And the preservation of those payouts to the super-profitable insurers is a pretty good bet considering even the Republicans couldn't round up 50 votes to repeal Obamacare and do what they had promised for seven years running. It's also a good bet because the pressure is rising to save Obamacare from all sides. There's even a warning from some liberal advocates not to dare call the insurance subsidy preservation effort a "bailout" because it's such a loaded term and it's the people we'll be bailing out and not some rich CEOs after all, right?
Whatever happened to those familiar Democratic Party mantras of "paying their fair share" and "those millionaires and billionaires don't need our money!" Whatever happened to familiar quasi-socialist/left wing calls for price controls? We certainly hear all of the above when it comes to Big Pharma for one thing. And why is the insurance industry getting not just a pass, but an enthusiastic, code red style, protection? In other words, the government has provided the big insurance companies with a policy that's led to massive profits.....
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Yet for $165 per month you can get health coverage through a Christian provider with a $500 deductible...
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I have yet to see a review by someone who’s had an expensive health problem say how that works.
It works.
1) Make providing health insurance to US citizens a crime punishable by time in prison
2) Make purchasing health insurance by US citizens a crime punishable by time in prison
3) Everyone has to pay for all medical expenses in cash
4) If a person doesn't have the money now he can use a credit card, take out a loan, etc.
5) If all that fails then the US government must act as the loaner of last resort
6) The US government charges a reasonable amount of interest which the patient is expected to pay, but limited to some percentage of his income such as 10%
Everyone gets access to medical care. Prices are kept down through cost competition. No one goes broke or bankrupt because there is a limit to how much they have to pay.
The only way the government loses money is if the person dies before paying off the loan. But I'm sure that loss will be far less than all the money going down the rathole of insurance payments, inflated medical expenses, government bureaucracy, waste/fraud/abuse, etc.
See my comment #43
If you have capitalism instead of socialism you can get a MRI/CAT scan for $350 instead of $2,000 at a hospital.
It’s an interesting idea that provokes an interesting question: would the cost of payments for a loan for a major operation be less, in the end, than the current insurance premiums meant to pay for such things. If so, everyone paying for insurance now as a remedy: put into savings what you can now afford to pay for health insurance, and keep it in savings until some health issue arises. In the end it will still come in handy as you age and your health fails for natural reasons.
BRILLIANT!
That’s not convincing in the least.
Awesome, thank you 3B3’s. I’ll check these out and certainly refer you if we go with CHM. Have a blessed day.
The only health insurance there should be is for catastrophic illnesses that would literally bankrupt the normal person. Break a leg? Pay for it yourself. Need glasses? Pay for them yourself. Appendicitis? Pay for it yourself. Cancer or hip replacement? Catastrophic, insurance pays.
Anecdotal, but I heard a couple on the radio who said they (or one of their kids?) had an expensive health issue. This type of insurance paid for all of it.
I posit that those who are attempting to live a Christian life tend to be healthier due to lifestyle choices, so maybe the frequency of expensive treatments is not as high as the general population???
Thank you.
Well said.
Every word.
I’ve just started to look into Medicare + insurance.
I have no experience in how or if they pay claims, but here’s a disclaimer in the Liberty HealthShare documentation that I find a tad spooky:
“ATTENTION: This program is not an insurance company nor is it offered through an insurance company. This program does not guarantee or promise that your medical bills will be paid or assigned to others for payment. Whether anyone chooses to pay your medical bills will be totally voluntary. As such, this program should never be considered as a substitute for an insurance policy. Whether you receive any payments for medical expenses and whether or not this program continues to operate, you are always liable for any unpaid bills.”
https://www.libertyhealthshare.org/content/Sharing-Guidelines.pdf
I posit that those who are attempting to live a Christian life tend to be healthier due to lifestyle choices, so maybe the frequency of expensive treatments is not as high as the general population???
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I agree with that, but look at the disclaimer in #53.
“ATTENTION: This program is not an insurance company nor is it offered through an insurance company. This program does not guarantee or promise that your medical bills will be paid or assigned to others for payment. Whether anyone chooses to pay your medical bills will be totally voluntary. As such, this program should never be considered as a substitute for an insurance policy. Whether you receive any payments for medical expenses and whether or not this program continues to operate, you are always liable for any unpaid bills.”
I think the best thing to do would be to create a federal “opt out” law, maybe to eventually be supplanted by an “opt out” constitutional amendment.
Basically put, when the federal government has created or creates a new law, statute, regulation, or other interaction *not expressly authorized* in the constitution, citizens can “opt out” of either receiving any imagined benefit from it, nor paying any tax or providing other contributions (including data) in support of it.
As examples:
The constitution requires an “actual enumeration” in the census. But no other personal data. Just a headcount.
The constitution permits no form of government retirement, health care or welfare, in fact no other direct payments of money, except to its current and former employees and contractors.
In fact, the only direct intercourse between the federal government and the people are, and should be, the US Post Office, and federal law enforcement officers investigating federal offenses. Other than that, if the federal government thinks it is important, they should go through the individual states.
I have heard about a therapy for correcting arterial blockage called chelation. It claims to dissolve arterial plaque so it is excreted. When I asked my cardiologist about it, he said it was unproven, not having been studied. Why would the drug companies who get to sell you statins for the rest of your life bother to study a therapy that might make their product unnecessary?
You mean like up until sometime in the 70s?
I have read the same thing and it puts me off as well. Contracts mean what they say.
It works both ways.
The insurance companies should not be getting government bailouts or subsidies.
At the same time, the government should not be crippling the insurance companies with draconian regulations.
If you want a free market, and I do, then lets have one without the government picking winners or making losers. It is not enough for the government to stop funding insurance companies. They need to stop burdening them with laws and regulations as well.
Fair is fair.
chelation......It is used to reduce lead in ghetto kids blood, painters and other people who never used PPR. It is also used to reduce toxic levels of beryllium from workers who DO use PPR but still catch trace amounts from clothes, outside air and using the toilet. Plaque? Never heard it used in that context.
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