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Oregon Poised To Decriminalize Meth, Cocaine And Heroin
dailycaller.com ^ | 7/7/17 | Anders Hagstrom

Posted on 07/09/2017 9:47:58 AM PDT by ColdOne

The Oregon legislature passed two bills Thursday decriminalizing small amounts of six hard drugs, including cocaine, heroin, methamphetamine and ecstasy.

The first of the two bills now headed to the governor’s desk, HB 2355, decriminalizes possession of the drugs so long as the offender has neither a felony nor more than two prior drug convictions on record, according to the Lund Report. The second, HB 3078, reduces drug-related property crimes from felonies to misdemeanors.

Republican State Sen. Jackie Winters claimed the war on drugs as it currently exists amounts to “institutional racism” due to how more frequently minorities are charged with drug crimes than whites.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: bluestates; cocaine; heroin; meth; wod
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To: SVTCobra03
The law is a teacher.

Nanny-statism in its purest and most loathsome form. A free people does not submit to "teaching" at the point of a government gun.

101 posted on 07/09/2017 2:58:57 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: SVTCobra03
A recent study published in JAMA Pediatrics found that the rate of marijuana exposure in young children in Colorado has increased 150 percent since 2014, leading to an increase in hospitalizations. In most cases of exposure, the drug was owned by family or friends of the child. In many cases, children are exposed to marijuana in the form of edibles—sweets infused with tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the active ingredient in the drug—that take the form of brownies or gummy bears. Following legalization in Colorado, cases began to be reported of students bringing marijuana edibles to school and sharing them with friends.

Bad - but a drop in the bucket compared to the black market's complete willingness to provide pot to minors.

102 posted on 07/09/2017 3:03:26 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: TTFX
All that is occurring while drugs are illegal. Therefore, making drugs illegal doesn’t stop what you’re talking about.

I can't believe when an otherwise intelligent person TRIES to actually use this as an argument. By that rationale, literally EVERYTHING should be legalized, including murder, rape and robbery. After all, we have all these laws against them, and, look! They haven't stopped anything! The War on Murder? Pfft! War on Rape? Joke! War on Robbery? Ha!

Just think of all the money that could be saved if the entire Criminal Justice System no longer had to worry about pesky things like "crime" and "justice"! Why, we could do away with courts, jails, judges, lawyers, etc.!

Yeah, your whole "laws don't prevent crime" reasoning makes so much sense! *EYES ROLLING*
103 posted on 07/09/2017 3:15:27 PM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: ColdOne

Sadly, from the article it appears that the bill decriminalizes possession, but does not legalize or regulate the sale of the drugs. So the bad guys continue to sell on the street corner, don’t pay taxes, and are not subject to the tender mercies of regulators. Not exactly a cure for the ailment.


104 posted on 07/09/2017 3:26:14 PM PDT by Bernard (Drain The Swamp! (But be careful, the swamp can fight back.))
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To: Bob434

On May 5, 2009, the FDA invited Novus to provide testimony before a special FDA committee that was investigating what Risk Evaluation Mitigation Strategies (“REMS”) to impose on dangerous prescription narcotics like OxyContin.

During our testimony, we stated that this is known about heroin and OxyContin:

Heroin was initially advertised as being less addictive than morphine and widely promoted in the United States for the treatment of pain and respiratory problems;
Because of its addictive qualities, heroin was made illegal in 1914;
OxyContin was released to the public in 1995;
Purdue Pharma, maker of Oxycontin, pled guilty to lying to the FDA, doctors and the public in 2007;
Purdue Pharma’s influential friends saw to it that OxyContin stayed on the market even though equal application of the law required that Purdue Pharma not be allowed to do business with the government;
Heroin and OxyContin are molecularly almost identical;
Heroin and OxyContin operate in the same manner in the body;
Heroin and OxyContin are interchangeable and addicts regularly use the one that is available;
OxyContin is easily obtained from a number of doctors who prescribe it for any excuse as long as the patient can pay for the office visit;
According to the studies cited in the March 2008 issue of Pain Physician, use of narcotics like OxyContin in the treatment of non-cancer pain patients has little benefit and many side effects.


105 posted on 07/09/2017 3:35:06 PM PDT by willyd (I for one welcome our NSA overlords)
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To: GLDNGUN
The War on Murder?

2 in 3 murders are solved - whereas no more than 2 in 3000 drug "crimes" are even known to the authorities. That's because murder has an unwilling victim, while everyone involved in a drug "crime" sought it out.

106 posted on 07/09/2017 3:35:24 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

It’s legal in all but name under the medicinal farce.


107 posted on 07/09/2017 6:01:14 PM PDT by Mr. Blond
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To: Garth Tater
There is no Constitutional basis for the Federal government's war on drugs... If a State's Constitution empowers the State to regulate drugs then have at it... I'm glad to see Oregon trying a new approach to the problems drugs cause. I'm also glad I don't live there.


108 posted on 07/09/2017 6:39:42 PM PDT by DoodleBob
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To: NobleFree; Mr. Blond

In my county in OR there are at least 1000 mj grows, and 100 are permitted. The rest are illegal.


109 posted on 07/09/2017 7:21:36 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: ColdOne

this is preposterous....


110 posted on 07/09/2017 9:31:17 PM PDT by cherry
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
I don't really care if thousands using drugs die from their drug use...I really don't...not anymore....used to...but not anymore....

you can only cry so many tears...

111 posted on 07/09/2017 9:36:25 PM PDT by cherry
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To: ColdOne
"The second, HB 3078, reduces drug-related property crimes from felonies to misdemeanors"

now there's the gem...these animals can break into your car or your place or destroy your property and its a "misdemeanor".

112 posted on 07/09/2017 9:37:56 PM PDT by cherry
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To: TTFX
"Yes, just like ending alcohol prohibition caused ‘a massive increase in criminal activity"

like so many drunks break into liquor stores...NOT!

alcoholics crave alcohol, but there is really little they can do...druggies on the other hand, have multiple sources...’

113 posted on 07/09/2017 9:41:02 PM PDT by cherry
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To: VanShuyten

“So Oregon wants to be the Mecca for drugs.

Oregon is beautiful state: Let me know when this “dies” down and I’ll move there.


114 posted on 07/09/2017 10:47:02 PM PDT by Does so (Trump's "PARIS" is like OPEC, except We're Winning!)
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To: cherry

There goes our “Castle Doctrine” of home-defense laws. We can devolve like Britain.


115 posted on 07/09/2017 10:51:02 PM PDT by Does so (Trump's "PARIS" is like OPEC, except We're Winning!)
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To: Bob434

Funny that you should say that. Last week, I witnessed a fistfight that broke out in my doctor’s waiting room—involving a biker and my doctor!

Fortunately, my doctor is a Marine!


116 posted on 07/09/2017 10:58:47 PM PDT by Does so (Trump's "PARIS" is like OPEC, except We're Winning!)
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To: riri

Ever since forums came to the Internet, I’ve been saying that drug decriminalizations weren’t going to end well.


117 posted on 07/09/2017 11:03:02 PM PDT by Does so (Trump's "PARIS" is like OPEC, except We're Winning!)
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To: cherry

The trouble is that the vast majority are no longer poor people who began using illegal drugs recreationally; but middle class and wealthier people who were prescribed excess opiates by doctors, encouraged to do so by some of the drug makers. In turn, many became horribly addicted, and were offered no means to get off the drugs other than the agonizing “cold turkey” approach.

Once cut off, the street price of prescription opiates is exorbitant, sometimes $100 a pill. Heroin is a quarter of the price and readily available.

(According to a drug treatment counselor I know, they always say they will just smoke or snort heroin, not inject it, but within two weeks they are injecting it.)

The final key is Fentanyl and its analogs. They are inexpensive to make, with thousands of small labs in China producing them, and they are vastly stronger than even pure morphine. Equianalgesic table:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equianalgesic

So drug suppliers will cut their heroin with one of these, some of which can cause overdose in the microgram range.

Carfentanil, one of the strongest, from 10,000 to 100,000 times stronger than pure morphine, costs from as little as $1,500 for a *kilogram*. Already there was an arrest of a smuggler in Florida with over four kilograms of it. Easily enough to kill every person in New York City.

Oddly enough, “caring” accomplishes little or nothing in this case. Instead, these drugs need to be reclassified as weapons of mass destruction.


118 posted on 07/10/2017 5:02:08 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Hitler’s Mein Kampf, translated into Arabic, is “My Jihad”)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

They are already weapons of mass destruction it is just that they victims volunteer.


119 posted on 07/10/2017 5:15:41 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: willyd

I am a doctor, or was, retired now. Ten years ago there was a big move from organized medicine to “end the suffering” because doctors were withholding pain relieving medications. The number of CME hours I sat through was what was insufferable where doctors were “educated” in how to prescribe these medications and to do so “properly” as to avoid prosecution or lawsuit. I tried vainly to warn folks but no avail. Willful ignorance. Now they are raping the whirlwind.


120 posted on 07/10/2017 5:20:05 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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