Posted on 06/08/2017 3:38:27 PM PDT by janetjanet998
live on air at the end of the opening segment
It’s time to start pulling White House press passes as many of these entities are no where close to reporting news.
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"you've told me 3 times I'm not under investigation, you need to say it publicly ? does not mean he was ordered to do so, in my book. DjT, btw, has the authority to force Comey to announce this fact...he's Comey's boss, and it's fact, not a lie.
Did CBS watch the same testimony I did? If so, they heard something completely different than I did. Not a WORD of the interpretation the "news"casters spoke on the Westcoast broadcast represented what Comey actually stated as his testimony. When a simple statement of fact or an answer to a question from Comey exonerated President Trump, instead of showing Comey answering the question the "news" speaker TOLD us their interpretation of what he said, rather than had a clip of him saying it. Other times they used a short clip of Comey saying something taken out of context which the "news" talker re-interpreted as something having to do with another matter. NEVER have I seen something so completely tornado twisted as this testimony.
First Comey lied to cover his own leaking as a response to Trump's Tweet, but then the CBS non-News talkers spun themselves silly to avoid saying ANYTHING that was truthful.
Yep.
Did anyone expect anything else from these #($() vile liars?
Its utterly disgusting.
Exactly what I've been saying for a long time. I think that at the next press briefing, before Spicer starts he should play a reel of the previous night’s newscasts and then follow it with what the ‘facts’ are even as based on nothing but Comey’s testimony. After each clip is played, he informs the people who work for that organization to leave the room, then goes on to the next clip...…..
Lessie Holt on NBC news tonight said Trump “directed” Comey to clear Flynn.
Is there any doubt that Trump was 100% right when he called out the fake news media for being the enemies of the people. They are trying so hard to emulate their hero Josef Goebbels with their lies. Unfortunately, too many Americans are gullible and uninformed and don’t see through their steaming piles of made-up, distorted B.S. These people are among the least moral and least ethical people on the planet, and they clearly have no shame at all.
Reality is a mental construct. Any liberal professor will tell you that. Reality is a way for White overlords to control people of color.
And the second part is true too. According to Comey, Trump said he was considering ordering Comey to undertake an investigation of Trump, in order to clear Trump.
These two things are not even vaguely similar. I can’t believe I’m reading something this bizarrely out of line on Free Republic. Ordering an investigating and ordering him to simply publicly clear him are exact opposites. The press was pushing a boldface, piss on the truth lie here, and to see a Freeper so outrageously distorting what Comey said to defend one of the most blatant lies I’ve seen in the anti-American, anti-democratic, propaganda media is disturbing.
You know damn well the “press” is dishonestly trying claiming that Trump ordered Comey to end his investigation and simply declare Trump innocent, i.e. that he committed a clear-cut obstruction of justice (an impeachable offense). Nothing like this happened, and the press has reached a new bottomless pit low of lying to the American people (whom they have total contempt for anyway) for partisan reasons. These people are making the North Korean state-run media look honest and fair. I don’t believe I’ve ever seen this level of unethical behavior from the “press” before.
Yes, Comey's lie.
Yes, Comey's lie.
COMEY: I don't know well enough to answer. And the reason I keep saying his words is I took it as a direction. ...COMEY: ... We don't want the agents and analysts working on this to know the president of the United States has -- has asked -- and when it comes from the president, I took it as a direction -- to get rid of this investigation, because we're not going to follow that -- that request. ...
REED: You have testified that you interpret the discussion with the president about Flynn as a direction to stop the investigation. Is that correct?
COMEY: Yes.
He sure didn't act like he took it as a direct order. He testified about the legitimacy and effect of a direct order ...
LANKFORD: ... If -- if the president wanted to stop an investigation, how would he do that? Knowing it's an ongoing criminal investigation or counterintelligence investigation.The way Comey acted, he did NOT take Trump's remarks as intending a direct order. He never sought confirmation, etc.Would that be a matter of trying to go to you -- you perceive and to say you make it stop because he doesn't have the authority to stop or how -- how would the president make an ongoing investigation stop?
COMEY: Again, I'm not a legal scholar. So smarter people answer this better, but I think as a legal matter, president is the head of the executive branch and could direct, in theory, we have important norms against this, but direct that anybody be investigated or anybody not be investigated.
I think he has the legal authority because all of us ultimately report in the executive branch up to the president.
LANKFORD: OK. Would that be to you, would that be the attorney general? Would that be to who that would do that?
COMEY: Suppose he could do it to -- if he wanted to issue a direct order, could do it in any way, could do it through the attorney general or issue it directly to me.
He can't have President Trumps remarks swing both ways. He can't interpret the remarks as a direct order for purposes of setting Trump up for a bogus obstruction charge (bogus because the president has the authority to stop any investigation), and also interpret them as not a direct order for purposes of continuing the investigation. In other testimony today, Comey testified that Trump's remarks did not affect the investigation in any way, and were sequestered from all but Comey's inner circle.
Comey probably did lie, but he never claimed anything even vaguely like what CBS said he did. CBS wants people to think Comey made a clear-cut, undeniable case that Trump obstructed justice (which would be the case if what CBS said was true), when he did no such thing. CBS’s comments were ridiculously misleading compared to what Comey actually testified.
Comey explicitly said that Trump encouraged the investigation to go on, while CBS is pretending that Trump ordered the investigation to end and Trump to be publicly exonerated. That is not what Comey said. Absolutely not. Comey is bad, but the “press” has been several times worse when it comes to dishonest and manipulative reporting.
The quotes are interesting and show how Comey was all over the place in his testimony (both claiming and denying interference), but I don’t know what they are supposed to do with CBS’s lie that Comey “ordered Trump to publicly clear him of wrong doing.” Comey confirmed Trump’s version that he told the president that he was not under investigation and said that Trump wanted him to say that publicly. CBS is pretending that Trump simply said, “Stop the investigation and say I’m innocent,” which is very different and far more legally questionable.
"Comey testified Trump ordered him to call off the investigation of Flynn and to publicly clear the President of wrongdoing"I contend that the parts of Comey's testimony just cited amount to "Comey testified Trump ordered him to call off the investigation of Flynn"
I take it that you disagree with my contention.
I know it's nitpicking at words, but Comey testified that he took Trump's words as a direct order. Comey said, not in these exact words, that Trump ordered him to stop the Flynn investigation. How else would "I took it as a direct order" play?
As I went on, this contention of Comey's is a lie, because he later describes that the president has the power to directly order an investigation to stop, and could implement that by ordering Comey to stop the investigation. Comey testified that he interpreted Trump's words as a direct order, which troubled him so he did not carry out the order. Instead, he shared it with his inner circle, and later leaked it to the press.
Those two issues were covered in separate meetings, at least weeks apart. There is no conncetion between them.
On the ordering Comey to go public with "Trump is not under investigation," I have a hard time seeing how that has ANY scandal potential, even if it is true. Trump askes Comey to tell the public THE TRUTH, and Comey does ..... what?
No, I agree that Comey’s words can be interpreted as saying Trump ordered him to call off the Flynn investigation, although I do think other things he said clearly indicate the opposite (so the press was being very selective and partisan in how they are choosing to report this in a one-sided way).
The actual part I was responding to in my first response to you here (post #91) was your claim that CBS was telling the truth when it claimed Trump “ordered Comey to publicly clear him of wrong doing.” You said CBS was telling the truth here because: “According to Comey, Trump said he was considering ordering Comey to undertake an investigation of Trump, in order to clear Trump.”
This strikes me as proof that CBS lied and distorted what Comey said to make Trump look criminal (he wanted a further investigation, while they claimed he just wanted to be declared innocent), not as proof the “press” told the truth as you claimed. What you wrote just seemed like a heck of a reinterpretation of the message CBS was trying to get out. It seemed to exonerate CBS from their manipulation of what Comey said, when they were clearly trying maximize damage against Trump through their heavily misleading spin.
Sure, the way you put it is not likely to go anywhere. But the way CBS put it looks absolutely horrible. You seem to be totally ignoring what partially factual, but very misleading spin can do. Can you really not see how damaging CBS’s false claim that Trump “ordered Comey to publicly clear him of wrong doing” would look to people who are not Trump fans, not willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, and not willing to do extra research on the details (which I would imagine are most of CBS’s viewers)?
It makes it sound like Trump wanted Comey potentially to lie to the public and declare him innocent regardless of the situation, even if he’s guilty as hell. That’s why what CBS said is so very much worse than what Comey actually claimed.
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