Posted on 04/27/2017 12:39:16 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
He gets the WHOLE can from now on.
-PJ
‘He will not talk.
His family will not talk.
His friends won’t talk.’
On this we agree.
There was no belief that when this began that anyone was going to the Hospital. One cannot plan for events that seem quite unlikely before they happen.
So far as legality is concerned, the contract when you buy the ticket says they can legally remove you. Their settlement has more to do with bad publicity than it does with what is the law.
United just wants the bad publicity to go away, and at this point they don't consider their legal rights to be the more important issue at stake.
How very moderate of you.
Refusing to leave makes you legally in the wrong. Police routinely have to escort unwanted guests out of people's homes and businesses, and the need to do so does not constitute a "Police State."
We will never know any of the “details” of this settlement, but we should be able to “take note” of the “change in the lifestyle” of Dr. Dao. BTW a Cessna Citation X goes for about $23 million. So there’s one benchmark.
This. That is exactly where I'm at. A pox on all of them.
The wacko passenger was at fault
he disobeyed a lawful order to leave the plane. He violated several security rules by being belligerent and out of control after being advised to vacate the aircraft
The settlement is a travesty of justice
United’s own ToS say they can’t remove a legally-boarded passenger except for disruptive behavior. That means disruptive PRIOR to being singled out for ejection.
The federal mandates for Common Carriers make it illegal to actively put a passenger’s health and well-being at risk. United screwed up almost beyond what is humanly possible. How you can defend them is beyond me.
well... that “moron” just got a big payday..
Doesn’t look like such a “moron” now.
We will never know any of the “details” of this settlement, but we should be
able to “take note” of the “change in the lifestyle” of Dr. Dao.
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Be interesting to see if he gives up his one day a week doctor fill in job.
What I recall seeing is that he hit the armrest of the passenger across the aisle from where he was seated.
This video appears to confirm it.
So they are saying the police should have raised up the arm rest of the passenger across the Aisle from where Dao was seated? Why would any rational person think to do that? What about the ones in front of or behind the passenger across the aisle? Dao could have hit those too.
How about removing the entire seat, because he might have slammed his head into the back of the seat if he had just fallen a little further towards the rear.
This is Monday morning quarterback stuff. People saying "they should have done this, or they should have done that", all to stop someone who is acting like a jackass from getting hurt accidentally through his deliberate struggles with police.
There are probably a dozen ways that man could have gotten hurt resisting the police, and it is a sheer impossibility for them to think of and eliminate all possible ways in which he might have been injured.
“For the past several weeks, we have been urgently working to answer two questions: How did this happen, and how can we do our best to ensure this never happens again?”
They are “working to find answers” to these two questions? Munoz needs to be gone before sunset. But here ya go Oscar: Stop Fu-king your customers! That covers both questions completely. Your employees were only following the “rules” you and the other “worthless suits” in your EO wrote. Now, clean out your desk and head for the UI line.
If he was breaking the law, why was he not charged with a crime?
I hope part of the settlement is that that the good doctor never flies United again.
“he disobeyed a lawful order...”
When was he charged for disobeying a lawful order?
Doesn’t look like such a “moron” now.
The lottery is a case in which Millions of fools make one fool look smart.
Dr. Dao's good fortune is the consequence of everyone having cameras nowadays. Had this happened 20 years ago, he would likely not be getting a payday. Had nobody been filming quickly enough, he might not be getting a payday. Had he not hit his head on the armrest, he might not be getting a payday.
If you are arguing that he intentionally waited to throw a fit so that people would be ready to video his fit, and that he made certain to hit his head on an armrest, and that this whole thing was thought through, planned and staged to win him a payday, well then that is a horse of a completely different color.
That's called fraud, and if you get away with it, you might be regarded as smart, but even at that, it still boils down to a whole lotta luck.
Civil law. Not Criminal law. He was in violation of contract. That gave them the legal authority to call the police to have him remove.
After the police ordered him to leave, then he probably could have been charged with a misdemeanor Trespass or some such, but they probably didn't charge him because they felt bad for him, and they didn't expect it to blow up in their faces.
In retrospect, it would have been in their better interests to have charged him with refusal to obey a lawful order, or trespass, or some such charge.
Police officers do not have to charge you with a crime if it is a misdemeanor. They have this thing called "officer discretion."
I bet they are wishing they had charged him with a crime.
“This whole thing is a sorry representation of modern life. Why do we no longer have people with common sense and dignity?”
Last night on Tucker Carlson, he had Duff McDonald who has written a book about the shamefully lacking of these traits in the Harvard MBAs that have been turned out for the last half-century.
Take a look: http://video.foxnews.com/v/5409933375001/?#sp=show-clips
I used to work for a company that had a penchant for hiring Harvard MBAs (we called them HUMBAS). They were as vicious and devoid of a modicum of both common sense and dignity as any group of human beings on the planet. BTW, that company, which was multibillion dollar in it’s heyday, is gone today thanks in no small measure to the HUMBAS they hired.
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