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New York Times: Thank 'Snowflakes' for Protecting Free Speech
Newsbusters.org ^ | April 24, 2017 | Kristine Marsh

Posted on 04/24/2017 4:04:40 PM PDT by Kaslin

If you want to read something crazy, look no further than the New York Times opinion section. The paper actually published an editorial Monday morning that outright denied free speech applied to anyone who wasn’t a liberal. In his appalling article, “What ‘Snowflakes’ Get Right About Free Speech,” New York University professor Ulrich Baer argued that conservatives are simply wrong about what free speech means, and that protesters who censored conservative or otherwise “offensive” guest speakers were actually protecting free speech.

Baer begins his article by breaking down the modern understanding of free speech as “anything goes.” While Baer is not entirely wrong in the idea that certain situations do require limiting freedom of speech, (such as, yelling “Fire” in a crowded theater), that isn’t what Baer is arguing here. In a really bizarre way, Baer actually argues that by censoring speech the left finds offensive, they are doing a “public good” at restoring “freedom of speech”:

The idea of freedom of speech does not mean a blanket permission to say anything anybody thinks. It means balancing the inherent value of a given view with the obligation to ensure that other members of a given community can participate in discourse as fully recognized members of that community.

In other words, the left gets to judge which view is “inherently” worthy of being heard.

Baer then brings up everyone from Ben Carson, to Donald Trump, to American Enterprise Institute’s Charles Murray as examples of people who “invalidate the humanity of some people” and deserve to be censored.

Some topics, such as claims that some human beings are by definition inferior to others, or illegal or unworthy of legal standing, are not open to debate because such people cannot debate them on the same terms...When those views invalidate the humanity of some people, they restrict speech as a public good...In such cases there is no inherent value to be gained from debating them in public.

Like President Trump’s attacks on the liberal media as the “enemies of the American people,” his insults are meant to discredit and delegitimize whole groups as less worthy of participation in the public exchange of ideas.

Not only that, but the liberal, hissy-fit-throwing protesters at school campuses across the country are actually protectors of “free speech:”

The recent student demonstrations at Auburn against Spencer’s visit — as well as protests on other campuses against Charles Murray, Milo Yiannopoulos and others — should be understood as an attempt to ensure the conditions of free speech for a greater group of people, rather than censorship.

He praises the protesters for keeping a “vigilant” watch against the “dangers to our democracy” (ie: anyone they disagree with politically):

As a scholar of literature, history and politics, I am especially attuned to the next generation’s demands to revise existing definitions of free speech to accommodate previously delegitimized experiences. Freedom of expression is not an unchanging absolute. When its proponents forget that it requires the vigilant and continuing examination of its parameters, and instead invoke a pure model of free speech that has never existed, the dangers to our democracy are clear and present.

The best line comes at the end, however, when Baer praises liberal protesters of all stripes as the guardians of the very “soul of our republic.” Yikes.

We should thank the student protestors [sic], the activists in Black Lives Matter and other “overly sensitive” souls for keeping watch over the soul of our republic.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: cyperalerts; ibsdemonrats; newyorkslimes; snowflakes; thenewyorkslimes
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To: HiTech RedNeck

You will not win by misinterpreting secular discussions into something that twists reality so badly that it looks like a servant of God has gone full on mental.

This reflects poorly on God.

Hopefully folks will not see this as something God would countenance, and would realize it’s just a man who has lost his way.


61 posted on 04/24/2017 6:39:36 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Happy days are here again!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

George Washington would not agree with what is going on at our universities.

He certainly wouldn’t think it was ordained by God.


62 posted on 04/24/2017 6:40:51 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Happy days are here again!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Oh you are God’s PR police? NO you are a self appointed nanny. Advocating nanny methods.


63 posted on 04/24/2017 6:40:58 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

God never supports anarchy. NEVER

You are attributing things to God you have no place doing.


64 posted on 04/24/2017 6:42:08 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Happy days are here again!)
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To: DoughtyOne

That’s neither here nor there. It is not fair to drag him into a situation he never addressed.


65 posted on 04/24/2017 6:42:37 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

You brought him into this conversation.

I merely responded to your idiotic quip.


66 posted on 04/24/2017 6:43:38 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Happy days are here again!)
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To: DoughtyOne

The choice is HOW to get “archy.” You have a one track fascistic mind about it.


67 posted on 04/24/2017 6:44:26 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

That didn’t even make sense.

Are you drinking this evening?


68 posted on 04/24/2017 6:45:24 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Happy days are here again!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Go ahead be full of yourself then. I will not dignify it with more answers.


69 posted on 04/24/2017 6:45:43 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Why is it that when folks get upset with me defending my position to their detriment, they always try to insult me into shutting up?

Are you full of yourself for defending your position? Well of course not. You’re here on behalf of the god who defends anarchy and organized crime on our university campuses. How could you be wrong?


70 posted on 04/24/2017 6:48:22 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Happy days are here again!)
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To: Kaslin
"Yelling fire in a crowded theater is dangerous."

Except when there is a real fire and it saves lives. In case you missed my comparison, I was implying that it is protected free speech to burn a flag, I'm just not allowed to complain about it.
71 posted on 04/24/2017 7:35:51 PM PDT by DocRock (And now is the time to fight! Peter Muhlenberg)
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To: Kaslin
Who Knew? Baer must be pro-life, and opposes the speech of pro-abortion people! Using his own argument:

Some topics, such as claims that some human beings are by definition inferior to others, or illegal or unworthy of legal standing, are not open to debate because such people cannot debate them on the same terms...When those views invalidate the humanity of some people, they restrict speech as a public good...In such cases there is no inherent value to be gained from debating them in public.

Since pro-abortion people deny the humanity of unborn children, and claim the unborn have no legal standing, using his one statements, the pro-abortion supporters must be silenced.

Mark

72 posted on 04/24/2017 9:54:22 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: DocRock

Well of course.


73 posted on 04/25/2017 6:46:36 AM PDT by Kaslin ( The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triump. Thomas Paine)
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