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1 posted on 03/19/2017 5:26:57 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I blame mac/ryan.


2 posted on 03/19/2017 5:33:12 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (If America Cared would a moslem cair?)
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To: Kaslin

The point? Hillaryous Rotten Criminal IS NOT in office (although she should be in prison along with current and former gang members of the Gang of 535, aka CONgre$$).

LOCK HER UP!

LOCK THEM UP!

http://usdebtclock.org


3 posted on 03/19/2017 5:36:23 AM PDT by PGalt (HOORAY President Donald J. Trump)
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To: Kaslin

the fact this question is asked shows that some on the right need to find a new interest.


7 posted on 03/19/2017 5:45:43 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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A true conservative plan would allow the states to become 50 petri dishes able to experiment with ways to make insurance affordable.

I hate insurance. I don't want to buy any insurance of any kind. God is my Providence.

13 posted on 03/19/2017 5:58:32 AM PDT by Theophilus (Repent)
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To: Kaslin
More options for the "replace" imperative.
16 posted on 03/19/2017 6:08:16 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (If a border fence isn't effective, why is there a border fence around the White House?)
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To: Kaslin
The biggest problem with the AHCA is it leaves in place the concept that it is the responsibility of the federal government to provide health insurance for Americans who don’t have employer-provided coverage

That's a little bit true, but it misses the point.

Congress tries hard to give people what they want. The problem with healthcare is that people want a number of things, some of which are mutually exclusive, and the intensity with which they want each one varies based on their particular circumstances at any given time.

Based on 45 years of observing patients and their families, I would say the top three "wants" are 1) Immediate access to all the care needed for a particular event, 24x7x365 and regardless of geography or season. 2) No payment at the point of service and no charges they can't afford, and 3) No one denied "emergency" care who can't or won't pay for it, or at least, if it happens, it happens in a way that they don't have to read about it or hear about it.

The "system", since 1965, has been pretty good at delivering #1, or something close to it.

The problem is that the machine that delivers #1 has been paid for with debt and money printing. This has created a crisis that the politicians KNOW they have to deal with, but without seeming to take away #1.

Number two is why "insurance" still exists, even though medical needs are not rare like car crashes or house fires. Oh, and it still exists also because it provides rivers of cash to Members of Congress. You can, for a time and by granting tax deductions to large employers create the appearance of no payment at the time of service and no unaffordable charges, but what is really going on is overpayment for some things, underpayment for others, and no payment for illegal aliens and others without insurance. Obamacare and Romneycare are the eventual result.

It's number three, though, that makes a single payer system an (eventual) certainty. Congress passed, and Reagan signed, a bill in 1986 that required hospitals (I'm not sure about other providers) to give any and all emergency care, and care to women in labor, without regard to payment, and in answer to "how can we pay for this", Congress said, "Who knows? You figure it out". The way this has been "figured out" has made every bill, every charge, every Medicare cost report, and every internal budgeting process since then an exercise in subjectivity (to put it kindly).

Yes, "the People" hate Obamacare and want it repealed, that is absolutely correct.

They also want insurance for pre-existing conditions, coverage for their adult children, coverage (of some sort) available to everyone, free care for emergencies and childbirth, and other things.

The fact is, the only thing the people hate about Obamacare is the name, and paying for it.

Getting rid of the rest will end the careers of Members who vote for it, and usher in a 1974-style left wing Congress that will nationalize the whole thing.

This is why I expect Trump to support a single payer scheme with a robust private option within a few months - he really has no other choice.

18 posted on 03/19/2017 6:10:54 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Die Gedanken sind Frei)
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Nothing new. The spineless GOP-e always talks a better game out of power than they deliver in power. Trump will drag them kicking and screaming to his agenda. The nice thing about the spineless GOP-e is that Trump can bully them into submission just as easily as the Democrats and media can.


19 posted on 03/19/2017 6:13:57 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (The GOP will see the light, because Trump will make them feel the heat.it is hugh and series)
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To: Kaslin

To make the Left miserable while we enjoy life.


20 posted on 03/19/2017 6:15:25 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Happy Nobama!)
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To: Kaslin

Donald Trump won the Republican nomination because nobody believed the Republican @ssholes in Washington anymore.


21 posted on 03/19/2017 6:19:19 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (President Donald J. Trump ... Making America Great Again, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: Kaslin

Wrong. A true conservative plan would have phased out completely the tax exemption for employer-provided plans, at the rare opportunity they have to do so in tandem with a significant, offsetting, income tax rate cut.

That would have simultaneously improved the clean economic incentive effect of lower income tax rates while getting the healthcare market distortion of employer linked and tax exempt insurance.

Further, not only should health insurance sales across state lines be allowed, but the entire McCarron Ferguson Act that had inhibited such should be repealed.

Finally, the Obamacare federal mandates, from requiring insurers to cover offspring through age 26 (if some want to buy and some want to sell such coverage, great—but a mandate is completely out of order), to cover pre-existing conditions (which larger insurance pools obviate the need for anyway), and to limit risk-based pricing should all be repealed. The feds have no business in this at all.

Does Ryan want to reform Medicaid? Let him do it later in another bill. That Trump has completely rolled on this and is repeating the Ryan lie that they can’t repeal because of reconciliation does not bode well. Unfortunately, it fits all too well with him listening more and more to his top aides and cabinet secretaries who are Democrats:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-trumps-white-house-new-york-moderates-spark-infighting-and-suspicion/2017/03/18/51e3c4d2-0b1c-11e7-a15f-a58d4a988474_story.html?utm_term=.c879398a747e

(Not just Ivanka and Jared and Gary Cohn but more—such as this Dina Powell I don’t think I had even heard of before.)


23 posted on 03/19/2017 6:21:09 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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The purpose of the Republican Establishment is to maintain the illusion of there being opposition to socialism, while carefully avoiding real opposition to anything the Democrats really want to do.

There is no real Republican-vs-Democrat fight. The real fight is between the Establishment and the rest of us.


31 posted on 03/19/2017 6:35:42 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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It’s certainly not perfect but the difference in what is and what might’ve been makes one wonder how that question could even be asked.


32 posted on 03/19/2017 6:35:46 AM PDT by arkfreepdom
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A golden opportunity in the cause of liberty will have been squandered because, after seven years of talk, Republicans could not do the one thing they told us they would

We elect GOP politicians to run, constrain and hopefully shrink the size of the federal government. But, they catch Potomac Fever the moment they come to DC. This is the contagious disease that makes politicians forget why they were elected. There is no recovery from this disease.

They grow increasingly sympathetic with big government programs. They also become intoxicated with their power to spend money.

They quickly become acclimated to the political culture and lavish lifestyle of the DC Beltway crowd. In short order they start focusing on serving a NEW constituency, one that rewards fiscal profligacy, the expansion of government, the reduction of personal liberties, and self aggrandizement. Before long, they are transformed into swamp dwellers.

35 posted on 03/19/2017 6:48:09 AM PDT by Starboard
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The more things change, the more they stay the same.

42 posted on 03/19/2017 7:01:07 AM PDT by Nateman (If liberals are not screaming you are doing it wrong!)
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So we elected Trump. Fantastic. A good 4 years at least of him and him only sticking it to the left. Lets face it, he’s on an island, we support him but he’s alone. No one is on board with him in congress. No one will get on board with him in congress. No one will get on board with him in the judicial branch.

Where that leaves us, the American people, is in a stalemate for the next 4 to 8 years. Probably only 4. I voted for him, I support him, but his actions so far have demonstrated a few things. He doesn’t have knowledge of the constitution. If he did, or his staff did, he would have ignored the courts ruling against his first immigration EO. that didn’t happen and now the courts have leverage for future EO from this president and future presidents. Second, Even his so called republican constituents are blasting him. We the American people voted for Trump to change things in DC. Guess what, We Americans were stupid enough to also elect the GOPe back to DC and more likely will do it again. History tends to repeat itself.
Finally, I’ve taken note of multiple articles, whether fake news or not, that have brought to light more and more leftists purchasing firearms. this is alarming since the left is so for gun control. The political and news hacks are all setting up a violent confrontation in my opinion. This will not end well. What’s slowly coming to a boil is not due to the repeal and replace of the ACA.


50 posted on 03/19/2017 7:49:01 AM PDT by TermLimitsforAll (Term Limits and Walls, that's a start.)
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The same phenomenon happens in the Republican Party.

That's it in AZ. Suddenly, I am getting emails from Open Border Flake. Sample subject matter:

BREAKING: Flake Votes to Confirm DeVos as Secretary of Education
BREAKING: Flake Meets with Supreme Court Nominee Judge Neil Gorsuch
Sen. Flake's Roundup Report: Courting Controversy, Deep-Sixing the 9th Circuit
Flake Protects Second Amendment, States' Rights
ad nauseum

In the coming election I will bestir myself and try to help to Primary the weasel.

55 posted on 03/19/2017 8:34:42 AM PDT by Oatka
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Yup: ‘Nearly every member of the Republican caucus campaigned on repealing Obamacare and told voters they were “constitutional conservatives.” Nothing they’ve done since would lead anyone to believe either claim was true.’

Washington DC, killing USConstitution daily.
Republican party, destroying USConstitution daily.


56 posted on 03/19/2017 8:59:00 AM PDT by veracious (UN = OIC = Islam ; Democrats may change USAgov completely, just amend USConstitution)
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To: Kaslin

Speaking of which...I thought I had started a thread with this article but it isn’t showing up...

“What election? Republicans have already handed Congress to the Democrats”

By Daniel Horowitz Sept 14, 2018

https://www.conservativereview.com/news/what-election-republicans-have-already-handed-congress-to-the-democrats/


60 posted on 09/15/2018 7:22:58 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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