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Freedom granted to Canadian man who beheaded, cannibalized bus passenger
Chicago Tribune ^ | 2/11/17

Posted on 02/11/2017 9:54:16 AM PST by markomalley

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To: markomalley

“Baker, a diagnosed schizophrenic, killed Tim McLean, a young carnival (er CANNIBAL) worker”


21 posted on 02/11/2017 10:26:45 AM PST by plain talk
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To: faithhopecharity

Hope they gave him a couple of sandwiches for the trip!


22 posted on 02/11/2017 10:27:55 AM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: markomalley

Baker would disappear were I the dead man’s father.


23 posted on 02/11/2017 10:32:34 AM PST by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: faithhopecharity

Greyhound don’t go as far as China though.


24 posted on 02/11/2017 10:40:48 AM PST by xp38
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To: xp38

The only way to put an end to this madness is to make parole boards, judges and medical review boards civilly and criminally liable for their negligent decisions. A private citizen who let loose a mad dog on the premise that the dog was voluntarily taking a sedative would be be behind bars if the dog killed again.


25 posted on 02/11/2017 10:44:31 AM PST by littleharbour
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To: markomalley

No wonder our liberals want to go to Canada.

They will feel right at home versus MAGA!


26 posted on 02/11/2017 10:47:36 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Our concerned trolls/NeverTrumpsters, don't know to celebrate winning as they buy into fake news!)
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To: Boogieman

This is disgusting. This was a horrible case. I know that one of the emergency workers, perhaps a young police officer, who was at the scene committed suicide a few years ago. He could not get over what he had witnessed.

I always thought it was a jihadi and they just weren’t telling us. Chalking it up to mental illness - and since when is mental illness of this calibre not still considered evil and worthy of being locked away for life?


27 posted on 02/11/2017 10:51:32 AM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: Boogieman
schizophrenics invariably do at some point.

They sure do. Back in the mid 80's my best friend's brother, who was schizophrenic, drove 280 miles from northern Michigan and showed up at my apartment here in S.E. Mich wanting to know if he could stay the night since he had an appointment with the French consulate in downtown Detroit the next morning. WTF?????????????

I called up my friend to let him know his brother was down here and he came over and spent the evening with us.

I let him sleep on the couch that night. I had to go to work the next morning and when I got home, Skip was gone. Don't know if he made it to the consulate or not....LOL!............

28 posted on 02/11/2017 10:56:36 AM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: markomalley

Freedom, which I revere more than life, should be for people who can handle it. People who are at no risk of harming themselves or others.

I’d like to see villages all over the states / localities that are enclosed, for the mentally ill or disabled who cannot live among us, and I’d like to pay for them and make life comfortable and interesting for them. We need to give them the amount of freedom they can handle, and let them have important (to themselves) lives, protected as needed.


29 posted on 02/11/2017 10:56:44 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: markomalley

Give this man a map to Justin’s house.


30 posted on 02/11/2017 11:27:37 AM PST by depressed in 06 (60 in '18.)
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To: markomalley
Schizophrenia is a *real* disease...a brain disorder.I worked in Emergency Medicine Administration for years and we saw it regularly.The brain is,in a very real sense,just another organ.The heart...liver....lungs...kidneys...eyes...colon,etc can malfunction (even long term) and when they do they create specific symptoms/problems.When the brain malfunctions it,too,can cause specific symptoms and problems.

Should this guy be on the loose? Should he be free? Very probably not by the sound of it.But it seems possible that he shouldn't be held *criminally* responsible for this.

It sounds to me as if he should spend the rest of his life in a psych hospital rather than in prison or on the streets.

31 posted on 02/11/2017 11:31:53 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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To: Boogieman

Relax, everyone. Shrinks have assured us he’s all fixed.


32 posted on 02/11/2017 11:32:09 AM PST by DPMD
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To: Hot Tabasco
I let him sleep on the couch that night. I had to go to work the next morning and when I got home, Skip was gone. Don't know if he made it to the consulate or not....LOL!............

I worked in a big city ER for many years.Like all such ERs we saw chronic schizophrenics routinely.In fact,several of our well known ones were among our best customers.

Among my many very vivid memories of the things I saw while working there was the time a schizophrenic who *I* wasn't familiar with came in.He told us that a radio receiver implanted in his brain was receiving signals from a transmitter implanted in his rectum.

He wound up being "pink papered" (meaning involuntarily committed) to the State Hospital which was right across the street.

33 posted on 02/11/2017 11:41:14 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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To: markomalley

You li! Chew ‘n lie


34 posted on 02/11/2017 12:07:48 PM PST by Phil DiBasquette
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To: Gay State Conservative
My friend Skip's was particularly tragic (of course they all are). He was a Vietnam vet who then went on and got a college degree from Univ. of Michigan. When he graduated, he married a gal from northern Michigan and they relocated to down her in S.E. Michigan where he joined an executive recruiting firm. Things started to go downhill after he and another recruiter in the firm quit and started their own recruiting firm. Unfortunately they illegally relied on their former employer's client base and were ultimately sued out of business.

He and his wife then moved back to northern Michigan and it was downhill from there. Now in his early 30's with the disease starting to manifest itself, he had visions of building a company up there and started soliciting friends for money that ultimately never went to that endeavor. As he got worse, his wife finally divorced him, he lost his house and finally ended up living on a beach up there.

His brother, my best friend, went to the local judge for help in trying to get a court order to have him hospitalized. Unfortunately the laws are such that unless he posed a threat to either himself or others, there was nothing that could be done.

Finally, when fall came along and winter started to arrive with Skip still living on the beach, it became evident that he could no longer take care of himself and he was in danger of succumbing to the elements. The judge then ordered that Skip be admitted to the state mental hospital in Traverse City.

Unfortunately they put Skip in a ward with the criminally insane and one day he was attacked and almost beaten to death.........

At the hospital they were eventually able to get his illness under control and he was released. Another classmate and friend, who was in charge of the Boyne City housing commission, was able to provide him with an apartment in the small local housing complex. While able to function on his own as long as he took his meds, he was just a shell of his former self. The first job our friend in the commission was able to get Skip was that of grocery bagger in the local supermarket. Another job he held was again provided by another friend who owned a Real Estate company. Skip's only responsibility was to answer phones.........Quite a decline for a once successful University of Michigan graduate..........

Every now and then Skip would stop taking his meds and he would end up doing weird things such as the time I mentioned above when he showed up at my apartment. As for his brother, my best friend who lived down here, his wife couldn't take it anymore and any time Skip said he was coming down to visit them, she would go to her parents house till he left..........

Skip died about 14 years ago from cancer. He had developed a cancerous tumor on his leg that eventually metastasized but refused all medical help believing the doctors were trying to kill him.........

Schizophrenia has to be the most horrible disease since it not only destroys the life of the person but affects the family and friends that surround them for a lifetime........

35 posted on 02/11/2017 12:54:05 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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Now in his early 30's with the disease starting to manifest itself...

Yup,sounds familiar.I was told by several physicians where I work that the first signs of schizophrenia usually appear from mid-teens to mid-twenties and the "full blown" stage sometimes happens as late as late-twenties to early thirties.

I once chatted for about a half hour with the parents of one of our more "regular" schizophrenic patients and they described what a nightmare it is having a child with that disorder.

The brain is what makes us human.Serious disorders of other organs usually don't make you a different person whereas certain brain disorders most assuredly do.

36 posted on 02/11/2017 1:32:45 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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To: DPMD

What could possibly go wrong?


37 posted on 02/11/2017 1:55:53 PM PST by Company Man (Best President evah!)
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To: markomalley
As an aficionado of "True Crime" stories, I know that almost all Canadian murders -no matter how heinous- end with the convicted person being released in less than 10 years, usually five.
38 posted on 02/11/2017 7:28:55 PM PST by Trentamj
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