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Blast at French nuclear plant does not pose contamination risk, say experts
The Guardian (UK) ^

Posted on 02/09/2017 11:18:43 AM PST by TigerClaws

Edited on 02/09/2017 11:42:05 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Authorities have said there is no risk of contamination from an explosion that occurred at EDF

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To: TexasGator

No. My posts are accurate. Want something more current?

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/02/08/unimaginable-levels-radiation-fukushima-pacific-ocean-leaks


61 posted on 02/09/2017 10:41:30 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: ransomnote

Apparently those dudes walking around the site haven’t seen your posts!


62 posted on 02/10/2017 5:15:14 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: ransomnote

500 seiverts per hour ... dudes would be dead in a minute ...


63 posted on 02/10/2017 5:22:17 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: ransomnote

Tablets were distributed at all evacuation stations ... over 230,000 units.

You are reading the wrong sites.


64 posted on 02/10/2017 5:24:18 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: ransomnote

Nonew of the public died from radiation but up to 2000 died from being evacuated.


65 posted on 02/10/2017 5:25:51 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: TigerClaws

Fake video; NOT from the plant in France but somewhere else entirely; read the comments.


66 posted on 02/10/2017 5:30:01 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I don't want better government; I want much less of it.)
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To: ransomnote

Please cite a source where Japan ordered people back into contaminated areas.


67 posted on 02/10/2017 5:31:46 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: BenLurkin

They are both fake; and NOT from a nuclear plant.


68 posted on 02/10/2017 5:32:05 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I don't want better government; I want much less of it.)
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To: BenLurkin

You must have a GreenPeace membership card!

More fake links; someone took the same video and kept repeating it.
The last election should have been a good lesson to all that there is much garbage posted on the web.

The place in the video IS NOT A NUCLEAR POWER PLANT.


69 posted on 02/10/2017 5:34:49 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I don't want better government; I want much less of it.)
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To: ransomnote

” The nuke industry has a shameful past it denies - without a willingness to accept responsibility for all the harm they do, with government protecting them from accountability, they feel enttitled to abuse the public and accuse the average citizen for irrational fear.”

Since you condemn our nuclear industry I call for you to cite examples in the U.Saturday. that support your accusations.


70 posted on 02/10/2017 5:35:12 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

“No comparison to Chernobyl and Fukushima designs to our nukes.”

Well I am pro nuke; but that’s not exactly true.
The Fukushima reactor is a similar design to some here made by General Electric I believe.
I’m not smart enough to know how similar they are to any US plants.


71 posted on 02/10/2017 5:40:04 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I don't want better government; I want much less of it.)
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To: ransomnote

“because the governments underwrite and are liable for the actions of the nuke company.”

Another piece of your false propaganda. Research Price-Anderson and ANI.


72 posted on 02/10/2017 7:10:05 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

Well I have to be careful because as nuke heads know, Japan can jail it’s own people for writing things about the nuclear incident that it doesn’t like. They enacted a law to control “rumors” and anything that points to information they want withheld is therefore grounds for arrest. So nuke heads like you can use people posting on blogs to point them to writers not yet harassed, silenced or arrested. So I have to limit my information proving the lies of the nuke industry to larger publications that Japan can’t arrest.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/12184114/Fukushima-Tokyo-was-on-the-brink-of-nuclear-catastrophe-admits-former-prime-minister.html
“He admitted “regret” at his decision not to publish results from a computer system called Speedi, System for Prediction of Environmental Emergency Dose Information, which accurately forecast the spread of radioactivity around the plant and could have saved thousands of local residents from exposure.
“As a result, some areas were exposed to high levels of radiation,” he said.”

It’s hard to tell how many people have sickened or died from the contamination because Japan made it illegal for Fukushima residents to see doctors outside the zone without authorization. But there’s reports like this: “After months of denials and the death of three employees, Tepco admits that water contaminated by radioactive waste is reaching the ocean. TEPCO president Masataka Shimizu resigns after the company records losses of $15bn.” in the Telegraph. Oh, and this, ““There is a clear conflict between government policy and the wishes of the public,” he said.” In this case, “he” is the former prime minister of Japan.

Here’s another article and it mentions the fact that radiation forecast information was withheld from the public to avoid responsibility (so the public was needlessly exposed to radiation in heavily contaminated zones) “But the forecasts were left unpublicized by bureaucrats in Tokyo, operating in a culture that sought to avoid responsibility and, above all, criticism. “.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/09/world/asia/09japan.html

One sad thing about this is the forecasting software was used to calm the public before the disaster but historically, nuke operators never release unflattering information like that when it is needed.

There’s the Wall Street Journal re not distributing iodide capsules, “By
YUKA HAYASHI
September 29, 2011
TOKYO—Government officials failed to distribute to thousands of people pills that could have minimized radiation risks from the March nuclear accident, government documents show.
The disclosure is the latest evidence of government neglect of emergency procedures in the chaotic days after the disaster, in which an earthquake and tsunami damaged the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant.”
https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052970204010604576596321581004368
There are going to be far too many examples of TEPCO hiding and lying to the public for me to cite but this is one in the Wall Street journal about Japan hiding record levels of radiation detected in ground water.

Here’s one about the way the world was kept in the dark about what was actually going on (TEPCO and JAPANESE GOV) so reporters were reduced to watching explosions and trying to figure out what was happening: “Martin Fackler, Tokyo bureau chief for The New York Times and another panelist, was similarly in the dark. “That’s how I would characterize the first ten days,” Fackler said. “The government was telling us nothing. TEPCO [Tokyo Electric Power Co., operator of the plant] was telling us nothing. We had very little input from the scientific community in Japan. Here we are trying to figure this out, and we had first one, then two, then three explosions.” That was from a Wood’s Hole research publication and here’s the link: “http://www.whoi.edu/oceanus/feature/communicating-science"; That one talks about how 1 person managed to get footage that “survived the blackout” on the air to alert the public. It really takes “brave” rogues to get past the nuclear industry’s ability to hide information and claim that lies are for the public good.

Here’s more hiding, “TOKYO — The operator of Japan’s tsunami-stricken Fukushima nuclear power plant admitted it failed to report a radioactive rainwater leak from the facility for about 10 months.” from this NBC link (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/radioactive-fukushima-water-leak-was-unreported-months-official-n312396).

Ooops...almost provided a link that the Japanese could savage. Gotta be careful about those “rumor” laws. So Japan “handled” some of their contaminated zones by declaring them safe. As long as they were declared safe - families living within them were faced with walking away from their house and jobs because they were not deemed entitled to relocation funds. FUrther pressure on the government to resume life as “normal “ in contaminated zones were bizarre indeed. For example, this one about having “first day of school” ceremonies for schools inside the exclusion zone:
“On April 6th, along with school children across the nation, Iwaki City, within the 40 km radiation exclusion zone, held many school entrance ceremonies for elementary, middle and high schools.
Iwaki’s Yumoto Daini Middle School’s ceremony was a bit different: not only were there 33 new students, but refugees living on the school grounds and some members of the Self Defense Force also attended. Overall 107 people participated in the ceremony. Headmaster Sawai Shiro may have exceeded his authority in taking the humanitarian step of granting permission for the refugees to remain on campus as the school year begins, at the risk of being punished later for breaking rules.”
That quote is from the Asia Pacific Journal at http://apjjf.org/2011/9/16/Makiko-Segawa/3516/article.html
Around that time the schools were methodically shaming children for trying to avoid eating contaminated meat, milk, and produce and children conducted routine activities (cleaning the school pool, picking and eating raw tea leaves in contaminated zones) as if life was normal just because the government insisted it was.
Here is a region of Japan that is contaminated but not officially classified as contaminated - it’s a way to avoid liability for nuke fallout, “Toshiyuki and his wife, Fumiko, are back home alone in the village of Kawauchi, about 13 miles from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant. The village is not officially in the mandatory evacuation zone, but it is contaminated with cesium fallout, and the farmers were told not to plant their rice fields. So the place is all but abandoned.” and that’s an article on PBS at this link: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/science-jan-june12-fukushimapt3_03-13/

More about TEPCO lying - in this case intentionally distorting the state of the nuclear meltdowns and insisting it was “core damage at this link. : http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/japan-fukushima-tepco-1.3645516
Of course US nuclear experts knew the truth but they are loyal to nuclear energy, not their families, friends or fellow Americans.
For Chernobul, I like the video “The Battle Of Chernobyl.” It often portrays the deceived public and the lies.

I posted so many articles years ago in the aftermath of the nuclear meltdowns and nuke heads like you ignore them and insist it’s all lies. Oh, we know the truth. The internet freed us from the media blackouts for the most part.


73 posted on 02/10/2017 8:42:50 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: TexasGator

Still have my search results up and this one caught my eye. In the aftermath of the nuclear meltdowns, Japan went out of it’s way to ship contaminated meat and produce throughout Japan for consumption. We were baffled - they were sending it to schools and hiding the origin of products coming out of Fukushima etc. WHY? We eventually realized that they want to conceal death and illness - this way it will spread out and they can deny it is linked to Fukushima whereas before they began agressively shipping it all over the island nation, sickness and death would have been clearly centered on more heavily contaminated areas. Here’s a sad little article indicating that their strategy was probably a good thing.
http://science.time.com/2011/07/14/radioactive-beef-makes-its-way-to-market-in-japan/


74 posted on 02/10/2017 9:03:16 PM PST by ransomnote
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