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President Trump vows to ‘destroy’ Johnson Amendment
Newsday ^ | February 2, 2017 | Emily Ngo

Posted on 02/02/2017 12:26:40 PM PST by kevcol

President Donald Trump vowed Thursday morning at the National Prayer Breakfast to “totally destroy” a provision barring religious groups from participation in politics.

“I will get rid of and totally destroy the Johnson Amendment and allow our representatives of faith to speak freely and without fear of retribution,” he said. “I will do that. Remember.”

(Excerpt) Read more at newsday.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: christianity; churches; first100days; firstamendment; johnsonamendment; prolife; religiousliberty; trump; trump45; trumpwinsagain
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To: Steve_Seattle

Not surprising, since the Johnson the amendment is named for is Lyndon B.


21 posted on 02/02/2017 2:14:34 PM PST by x
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I never understood how it could be legal to single out religions for IRS blackmail. Why not blacks or Latinos, how about homosexuals and lesbians, maybe just all women. That’ll shut them up.


22 posted on 02/02/2017 2:27:40 PM PST by USCG SimTech
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To: Jim Robinson

Great news. The Left ignores it anyway


23 posted on 02/02/2017 2:40:09 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: kevcol

Another, earlier source:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3520589/posts


24 posted on 02/02/2017 2:46:30 PM PST by upchuck (Isn't it great having the greatest counter-puncher in the world in the White House?)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thanks for the ping boss. Great news.


25 posted on 02/02/2017 3:10:49 PM PST by Eddie01
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To: kevcol

Careful; that will apply to Islam as well, enabling Imams to spew political Islam at their services...Oh, wait...

Never mind!


26 posted on 02/02/2017 3:18:37 PM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Building the Wall, NOW!)
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To: kevcol

Good start but abolishing the IRS would be better.


27 posted on 02/02/2017 3:46:19 PM PST by Romans Nine
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To: kevcol

We watched the Prayer Breakfast.
The more I see and hear President Trump the better I like him.

He goes off on a tangent sometimes, toots his own horn but that aside we have a real get the job done President.

(Boy, it’s so refreshing to add ‘President’ to the name of the office holder.)


28 posted on 02/02/2017 3:47:45 PM PST by Vinnie
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To: BykrBayb

He will do it. I believe him.


29 posted on 02/02/2017 3:55:50 PM PST by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: HamiltonJay

I’d say the majority of those churches.


30 posted on 02/02/2017 3:58:21 PM PST by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: x
We should think twice before doing something that would allow churches and other charities to become even more politicized.

Why?

What is wrong with churches and charities being involved in politics?

This sly, slipping something under the table bit has got to stop. Let churches and charities boldly come out and proclaim their political views.

31 posted on 02/02/2017 4:05:17 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; TenthAmendmentChampion; ...
Thank you President Trump!!!!

Pro-Life PING

Please FreepMail me if you want on or off my Pro-Life Ping List.

32 posted on 02/02/2017 4:14:16 PM PST by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available 4 FREE at CpForLife.org)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Let churches and charities boldly come out and proclaim their political views.

One of the good things about churches and charities is that they allow people to come together to do some good without regard to parties or ideologies.

That provides a refuge from the relentless partisanship going on now and also brings people together at a time when it seems like the country is intent on tearing itself apart.

If that goes, it will be a major loss -- more wear and tear, more friction, both in our personal lives and in society.

Also, if churches pursue politics more relentlessly than the do now, what is specifically religious be lost as well.

Look at the Unitarians if you need an example of that.

33 posted on 02/02/2017 4:41:18 PM PST by x
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To: x
One of the good things about churches and charities is that they allow people to come together to do some good without regard to parties or ideologies.

Excuse me but that has to be the most silly thing I read today.

If you think that liberals do ANYTHING without regard to party or ideologies then you are sorely deluded.

And because they control the churches that do involve themselves in politics they decide what is allowable and what isn't.

Does your church support Baby Killers Inc? No problem.

Does your church support Pregnancy Crisis Center? Major problem.

Does your homeless shelter allow mentally ill men to live with small children? No problem.

Do you insist that single men not be housed with the women and children? Major problem.

The end results is not your glorious vision of churches being involved in charitable work but in churches being forced out because they are not allowed to fight back because they are not allowed to be involved in politics.

34 posted on 02/02/2017 5:01:51 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
I guess it depends on what church you belong to (or identify with). Even in very liberal parts of the country the Catholic church doesn't have those problems (though it has others).

Protestant denominations are already split somewhat along ideological lines. I can't see that inviting them to take even more of a role in politics would necessarily be a good idea.

You might think it would allow conservative churches to become more political to match liberal ones, but if liberal churches are more politically active now, maybe it's because they're more naturally political and that won't change just because the law does.

35 posted on 02/02/2017 5:19:39 PM PST by x
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To: Jim Robinson

Thanks for the ping Jim.


36 posted on 02/02/2017 5:38:21 PM PST by lysie
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To: cpforlife.org

Amen!! Freedom of Speech in the Churches!! Praise God!!


37 posted on 02/02/2017 7:48:46 PM PST by Coleus (For the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.)
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To: HamiltonJay

But, that’s different; it’s their culture; white folks just have to understand that!

At least that’s what we were told last time anyone complained about it.


38 posted on 02/02/2017 10:09:35 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!�)
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To: x
Even in very liberal parts of the country the Catholic church doesn't have those problems

Really?

Would you like to have a chat with The Little Sisters of the Poor about that?

You might think it would allow conservative churches to become more political to match liberal ones, but if liberal churches are more politically active now, maybe it's because they're more naturally political and that won't change just because the law does.

So let's keep a gag on part of the churches. They probably don't have anything to say.

39 posted on 02/03/2017 7:33:17 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
You said your church or somebody's church supported abortion and had mentally ill men living with women and children in shelters. So far as I can see, the Catholic Church and Catholic charities don't have such policies, even in parts of the country that are very liberal.

To be sure, there are clashes between the Church and secular authorities. I'm not sure authorizing the Catholic Church to become a massive political lobbying outfit would be the answer, especially given how liberal many Catholics are.

Groups like the Salvation Army manage to do a lot of good without getting caught up in today's culture wars. There's controversy now about charities -- like the Clinton Foundation -- that aren't giving enough money to the people they are actually supposed to help. Add political advocacy and campaign contributions to their functions and that means even less going to people who need it.

So let's keep a gag on part of the churches. They probably don't have anything to say.

I don't know where you're getting that from. No churches -- left-wing or right-wing -- are allowed to campaign or give political contributions and retain their tax exempt status. But if that changes, don't be surprised if the results aren't what you expect. Don't be surprised if it's the left-wingers who function most effectively under the new rules.

Maybe there are grounds for rethinking the Johnson Amendment. Clergy shouldn't be punished for taking a stand (though I'm not sure that actually happens), but I wouldn't want to see politics and religion mashed or squeezed much closer together. There's something to be said for maintaining a respectful separation between worship and politics.

40 posted on 02/03/2017 1:59:14 PM PST by x
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