So, why couldn’t we cede California back for, say, $415 million (what $15 million in 1848 dollars is worth today)?
I will support any effort to have all the other states agree to CA seceding. Agreement from the other states and DC is required to secede.
$4.15 trillion.
“Don’t let the screen door hit ya,
where the San Andreas split ya.”
So to speak.
>>So, why couldn’t we cede California back for, say, $415 million (what $15 million in 1848 dollars is worth today)?
Nah. This is one of those “expensive divorce” scenarios. You know the joke: Why is divorce so expensive? Because it’s worth it!
Pull the military assets out, cut the water pipes and power lines that cross the state lines and ship the illegals there. Then build a wall and defend the United States of America from the escapees, but permit emigration as long as they can prove they are Conservatives.
America has a huge investment in California. If they want to leave, give them a 1 Trillion dollar a year EZ payment plan for 200 years.
California bump for later.....
That's a contradiction in terms.
Well there could be an earthquake and it separates from the mainland, kinda like another Hawaii.
The DofI may be the best outline ever created to justify secession.
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. - Declaration of Independence (DofI).
A state can't just up and say, "OK we’re outta here." Individuals may leave, but not a state. A state purporting to govern itself must have more than "transient causes" to overthrow that which governs it.
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security. - DofI.
Where is the "long train of abuses" CA has suffered? Where has CA gone on record to show how it has suffered "a long train" of unconstitutional federal acts of “despotism” or tyranny, the ONLY legal, moral, and prudent justification for secession?
Not sure how most of CA survives without the water they get from other states.
They’d be crying to get back in within weeks. The instant the Federal payments stop, bases closed,etc they be popping their pants. Wouldn’t take but a month for the Mexican Army to conquer that teeming pile of draft dodgers and baby killers.
Thank you for posting. It’s good to see that someone has actually done his homework on the legal and constitutional issues involved.
On the plus side, If California were to secede, democrats wouldn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell of winning another election forever.
A. If it is good enought for California, its good enough for Texas.
B. Texas would never divide into 5 states.
I live in California and would gladly give up Southern California to Mexico, Central California and Northern California as their own states except for the Middle Section including San Francisco and Sacramento corridor would be it’s own state. I would vote for that
California wants to leave? I say fine. They give up San Diego county, Orange County, Riverside county, San Bernadino county and Imperial county — which remains a state or the U.S.
Furthermore, all their corporations that started there lose all their IP, Copyrights and Trademarks, Hollywood drops all copyrights on films and music dating back more than 7 years.
Sure. Who doesn't trust a "billionaire activist"?
Though President Obama would probably have held the door open had Texas tried to secede during his presidency, President-elect Trump is not likely to let California go in peace.
Interesting hypothetical. Obama might well have wimped out if it came down to a matter of using force. But any president who presides over the dissolution of the union and the loss of a major part of the country is going to go down in history as a failure, so just about any US president would do what they could to prevent that from happening.
Seriously, start dividing up the nation and at some point the country becomes a second rate power and its fate falls into the hands of other, more united and determined nations.
Only cede those counties in CA that vote dem and keep the rest.
And once patriots work with Trump to put a stop to unconstitutional federal taxes, taxes that corrupt Congress cannot justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers, the states will probably find a tsunami of new revenues that they won’t know what to do with.
“Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.