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Arizona Christian Artists May Face Jail Time for Refusing to Service Gay Wedding
Christian Post ^ | 12/08/2016 | Michael Gryboski

Posted on 12/08/2016 9:06:37 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Bayard
Look for musicians to be targeted next.

But not fashion designers who refuse to design for the First Lady.

21 posted on 12/08/2016 9:25:00 AM PST by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The judge doesn’t believe that printing is an art form.

I suggest her grandkids do her future correspondence in crayon.


22 posted on 12/08/2016 9:25:18 AM PST by xzins (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“It is absurd to think that the fabricator of a wedding invitation for a same-sex couple has endorsed same-sex marriage merely by creating or printing that invitation,” wrote Judge Mullins.

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Yes you HAVE to because the government says you WILL. Its not like them going into Hallmark and buying a box of invitations: that agrees with the judge. But to force the artists to create for something so intrinsicly wrong is an affirmation by the artist of the subject.


23 posted on 12/08/2016 9:26:11 AM PST by Adder (Mr. Franklin: We are trying to get the Republic back!)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is BS. Refusal to serve an event, as opposed to a person, should always be permissible.


24 posted on 12/08/2016 9:26:38 AM PST by circlecity
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To: SeekAndFind

Hopefully, after January 20, 2017, these type of cases won’t come up again.


25 posted on 12/08/2016 9:27:20 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: SeekAndFind

I heard on a news program the other morning that the father of one of the victims in the Oakland fire blames society for his daughter’s death.

He said that she was trans and as such didn’t feel welcome going out in public and therefore had to go to underground activities such as this. What bs.

Culture is being torched on purpose. There is a reason and Alexandr Dugin believes it is to prepare us for transhumanism, to blur the definition of what it is to be human. It’s a very interesting thought.


26 posted on 12/08/2016 9:28:07 AM PST by Vic S ( David Rockefeller killed Larry McDonald (KAL 007))
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To: SeekAndFind

How many Christians are willing to stand up to these fascists?


27 posted on 12/08/2016 9:30:50 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: JBW1949

That disappeared in the 60s when this process was used to require businesses to serve blacks.

What the law is trying to equate here is that race, which cannot be chosen by the individual, is like sexual orientation, which can be chosen by the individual.

Until this is resolved perhaps we need to find gay businesses that refuse service to normal folks. I’ve heard that actually happens in Key West in gay bars.


28 posted on 12/08/2016 9:31:16 AM PST by fruser1
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To: SeekAndFind

So when are Christians goimg to to start targeting homosexuals with lawsuits for violating their religious beliefs?


29 posted on 12/08/2016 9:34:20 AM PST by factoryrat (We reserve the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: CaptainAmiigaf

Well, sounds like God looked out for you there. The abomination they wanted was physically impossible, and though those guys grumbled, they accepted it.

(BTW, Christians have theology that sometimes looks weird to modern Jews. Some of the details of how the New Testament authors tied Christian faith into Jewish history are less well known, though. And knowledgeable Christians will tell you that when Christ comes into the world to help Christians, Christ will also help Jews.)


30 posted on 12/08/2016 9:34:48 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: SeekAndFind
From the judge: "Moreover, there is nothing about the creative process itself, such as a flower or vine or the choice of a particular font or color, that conveys any pledge, endorsement, celebration, or other substantive mandated message by Plaintiffs in regard to same-sex marriage."

Perhaps the good judge might feel different if the the cake had depicted Black people standing under a noose in a tree?

31 posted on 12/08/2016 9:35:22 AM PST by the_Watchman
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To: fruser1

> What the law is trying to equate here is that race, which
> cannot be chosen by the individual, is like sexual
> orientation, which can be chosen by the individual.

Even worse, this sick law and the ruling upholding it confounds ancestry with behavior.

Skin color is due to ANCESTRY.

Sodomy is BEHAVIOR.


32 posted on 12/08/2016 9:37:47 AM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it)
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To: Vic S

Transhumanism is a delusion comprised mainly of magical and wishful thinking. And also a bit of hubris.

In a few billion years, the heat death of the universe will put such nonsense to rest.


33 posted on 12/08/2016 9:39:47 AM PST by baltimorepoet
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To: SeekAndFind

I figured that from day one. Interesting they never target Muslim businesses.


34 posted on 12/08/2016 9:46:15 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: SeekAndFind
"I have this queasy feeling that there is some sinister plot by gay activists to “select” certain Christian businesses to target. This has been happening with increasing frequency."

I'm not a conspiracy type, but I'm also starting to think these queers are purposefully targeting some businesses just to make their perversions more mainstream and/or make some point. How much more do they need? They're already a protected class.

They once wanted to be acknowledged; then they wanted acceptance; then they wanted to be mainstream of society; then they wanted to Marry; now they dictate to hetero-sexuals what is to be the norm?

While I have never given a sh*t about what consenting adults do behind closed doors because it's their business, these faggots are starting to piss me off.

This post may be deleted by the Admin Moderators, but I say, "F*ck you you damn butt humpers". Yes, those are hate words and guess what, hate is a genuine human emotion. I'm entitle to that emotion as I am for love, empathy, and sympathy, envy, etc.

If you faggots want my sympathy, then get out of my face and stop your childish crap against those who have other beliefs. You people are now the bigots.

Disclaimer: I'm an agnostic.

35 posted on 12/08/2016 9:49:48 AM PST by A Navy Vet (I'm not Islamophobic - I'm Islamonauseous. Plus LGBTQxyz nauseous.)
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To: Rusty0604

I figured that from day one. Interesting they never target Muslim businesses.


NGOs find willing people to create social engineering activities with a certain outcome in mind. I.e. target and weaken Christian businesses. These NGOs are funded by oligarchical organizations like the Rockefeller Foundation, or Heritage, just to name a few.


36 posted on 12/08/2016 9:53:01 AM PST by Vic S ( David Rockefeller killed Larry McDonald (KAL 007))
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To: RayChuang88
"Hopefully, after January 20, 2017, these type of cases won’t come up again."

Their pissy little lawsuits WILL come up again and again. The Queers have no self-esteem nor honor nor integrity. It's all about them being LGBTQxyz special persons and pushing their perversions on our American society.

It will never end until the 98% of heterosexuals tell them to take it back the bedroom and stop bothering us.

37 posted on 12/08/2016 9:58:31 AM PST by A Navy Vet (I'm not Islamophobic - I'm Islamonauseous. Plus LGBTQxyz nauseous.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s government all over again. Think of it like Welfare and entitlements. For the Government to give money and other benefits to those who receive welfare and entitlements they first had to TAKE IT AWAY from someone else in the form of taxes, fees or fines.

So for these people who claim extra-special rights to receive them then others had to have their rights taken away under penalty of fines or imprisonment.

So much for the land of the free...

Bring back the right of free association and that a business has the right to do business under it’s own terms. Those businesses that are to onerous to their customers will go out of business as their potential customers refuse to do business with them.


38 posted on 12/08/2016 10:10:58 AM PST by The Working Man
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To: SeekAndFind
City Code Section § 18.4(B) did include an exemption for "bona fide religious organizations" regarding "the prohibitions concerning marital status, sexual orientation, or gender identity or expression."

I am assuming Muslims would have no problem with any of this "... compel Plaintiffs to convey a government mandated message, such as an endorsement or pledge in favor of same-sex marriages, nor does it convey any message concerning same-sex marriage."

Obama's America.....can't wait for Trump's America of Freedom!

39 posted on 12/08/2016 10:11:09 AM PST by yoe (By all means TRUMP! America needs hiim!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Phoenix is run by tax and spend demonrats. Sal DiCiccio would make an excellent mayor. I hope he runs in near future.


40 posted on 12/08/2016 10:15:04 AM PST by hsmomx3 (Love my Steelers!!)
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