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Vilsack says Democrats need better message for rural America
Associated Press ^ | Nov. 23, 2016 3:07 AM EST | Mary Clare Jalonick

Posted on 11/30/2016 11:55:45 PM PST by Olog-hai

No one listened to Tom Vilsack.

As agriculture secretary during the entire Obama administration, the former Iowa governor has for years been telling anyone who will pay attention — farmers, members of Congress, even Hillary Clinton — that Democrats need a better message for rural America. And he’s spent most of his tenure focusing on rural development, trying to revitalize areas that ultimately voted for Republican Donald Trump in this year’s presidential election.

“The Democratic Party, in my opinion, has not made as much of an effort as it ought to, to speak to rural voters,” Vilsack said Tuesday in an interview with The Associated Press. “What’s frustrating to me is that we actually have something we can say to them, and we have chosen, for whatever reason, not to say it.” …

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democrats; dncstrategy; flyovercountry; redstates; rural; ruralamerica; trumptransition; vilsack
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To: 98ZJ USMC

And they try to undermine what would otherwise be the uniting “redneck” attitude. Which Donald Trump has aimed square at, though using different words. The ballcap symbolism. His WWF (now WWE) show wrestling background. His unashamed display of riches. Technically a New York City boy but close to a hick by culture — this is not some foo-foo New Yorker.


21 posted on 12/01/2016 12:41:50 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Bullish

Well me and my buddy came up with this one in Illinois (!) 6 years ago. Tried to market it before, but not after things started getting earnest with Donald Trump (except that I did suggest it to the Trump campaign, which for whatever reason was underwhelmed — but again maybe they weren’t envisioning their after-game either).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c66P1mCVGio


22 posted on 12/01/2016 12:46:49 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Hey, that’s really a very fine song. As a lifelong musician myself I gotta give ya’ props.

PS. I started out in a country western band about 40 years ago. I play just about anything these days at a pro level and am freelancing, sort of a hired gun. I get a lot more offers then I can accept. It’s nice to be in demand. Too bad we’re not closer we could definitely jam.

Again, I enjoyed your song and will be sharing it around.

Freegards.


23 posted on 12/01/2016 12:54:42 AM PST by Bullish (The fly on Hillary's forehead knows)
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To: Bullish

Hey thanks, I am very grateful for the props. Maybe some day a lot of rednecks (of all colors) will be singing this thing in America. Song writers don’t typically get paid anything but peanuts, but if they can wangle their way into something like Nashville contracts, maybe the prospects are livable? Also my buddy wants still to be a performing star, at age 57.

I’ve been one weird cowboy, so to speak. I smelled this stuff coming down the road before most people did (though I’ve heard of at least one Christian seer who got it even further in advance than I did). I’m the kind of guy who doesn’t mind farm smells, at least, as long as it isn’t overpowering. But I have made my living hammering on computer keyboards.

Anyhow, thanks again, with much gratitude. I never know what tomorrow will bring. The good Lord will definitely see me through no matter whether in earthly terms I make it big time or small.

Born under sign of Taurus. Born again under sign of Cross. So maybe I am bullish too....


24 posted on 12/01/2016 1:02:37 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Olog-hai

Vilsack? Wasn’t he Secretary of Agriculture when the Pigford
scandal occurred? What a ripoff of the American taxpayers!


25 posted on 12/01/2016 1:27:34 AM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: Olog-hai

Yes Sec’y Vilsack, the rats do have a message for rural, white voters: die ASAP. Don’t know that it’s going to gain them a lot of votes, though.


26 posted on 12/01/2016 2:09:07 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Right versus left is no longer as relevant as Nationalist versus globalist.)
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To: Olog-hai

I read all the way through the thread and see no mention of bitter clingers. Lol


27 posted on 12/01/2016 2:13:03 AM PST by printhead (Standard & Poor - Poor is the new standard.)
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To: Olog-hai

Message? Messages are not what people expect from their ‘rat rulers. Just have the gov’t quit “helping”.


28 posted on 12/01/2016 2:15:08 AM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much wwork to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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To: Olog-hai

Translation—start lying to the dumb rural people. Then you can do whatever you want!

That is what the Democrats call “outreach”!


29 posted on 12/01/2016 2:44:51 AM PST by cgbg (Pedophiles--the siren is wailing--incoming!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
These flyovers may not all be literal geniuses but they are wise.

They produce as many geniuses as anyone else.

Not trying to sound smug or anything, but I am a member of the science profession, which draws incredibly bright people. I've been to a number of scientific conferences. In most cases, when a scientist talks about his/her work at one of these conferences, there are not a lot of people who watch--maybe a few dozen, mostly people working in the same field.

Nobel Prize winners always fill a room, but that is because of name recognition.

However, the most popular scientific talk I ever saw, in front of a crowd that was standing room only, was presented by a grizzly guy in plaid shirt and jeans, leather belt, cowboy boots and cowboy hat. And he was talking about his research with cow poop.

Genius redneck, indeed.

30 posted on 12/01/2016 2:48:23 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Bullish

So what is going to be the final straw in Kalifornja? To me it appears that state is lost or, when he rest of the country starts to flourish and they keep falling, will it be a sudden and dramatic change?

I look forward to enforcement of immigration laws and the resulting pushback to the sanctuary issue and the resulting response as outlined here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Bj6-dhCY-0

With the Democrats again choosing Pelousy to be the image of more of the same from them, the 2018 mid-terms could be a death blow to their “caucus” as they like to describe it in over inflated terms.


31 posted on 12/01/2016 2:59:09 AM PST by mazda77
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To: mazda77

That link was not what I wanted, here is the segment from Lou Dobbs.

http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/5228813027001/?#sp=show-clips


32 posted on 12/01/2016 3:01:36 AM PST by mazda77
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To: Olog-hai

Democrats ought to shut up for once. The do not listen. They are dictators by nature, so the feel like they didn’t dictate the right narrative. They need to find another lie, another mischaracterization, another spin, another “tea party” “alt-right” “extremist” label that will fool us.

Narrative. That is their entire world.

Midwesterners want real action, not another spin job.


33 posted on 12/01/2016 3:08:19 AM PST by Big Giant Head
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To: Olog-hai

We got their message loud and clear.


34 posted on 12/01/2016 3:32:57 AM PST by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: Olog-hai

....not enough $$$$$ in fly over country for Hilda and others to bother... stopping in Hollywood once a month for a year is enough to bring in several millions. Self adulation is contagious.


35 posted on 12/01/2016 3:35:32 AM PST by Doogle (( USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Hillary lost this election as much in the suburbs (where Trump did well), and even in cities (where many blacks didn’t vote for her). Rural populations were critical, but by definition they are smaller/more scattered numbers. On election night they were really focused on what Hillary needed from urban areas and surrounding suburbs; PA was a great case in point.


36 posted on 12/01/2016 3:40:03 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Rastus
“Why can’t we formulate a lie good enough to fool these rubes?!”

^^^THIS!!^^^

37 posted on 12/01/2016 3:43:16 AM PST by workerbee (The President of the United States is public enemy #1)
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To: Organic Panic

You mean knuckle dragging, uneducated, islamaphobic, homophobic, inbred, gun toting, bible thumping, racist bigots.


38 posted on 12/01/2016 4:01:24 AM PST by Pollard (TRUMP 2016)
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To: Steely Tom
Stalin and the Communist Party had a message for rural Russia and Ukraine, and it was this: die.

VileSack is down with that… he's just telling everyone that the left needs better lies to continue the ethnic cleansing. To be fair, the Iowa GOP and their shiny-pants Polk County brigade have been assiduously depopulating rural and small-town Iowa for short-term profits while the Democrats have been doing it for political purposes. VileSack's ignorance of agriculture may be legendary, but he and his spouse do know a thing or two about lobbying and being part of the Party apparatus (which made him the perfect Sec of Ag in an Obama administration, e.g., the Pigford "fix"). Given his accomplishments and abilities, rest assured that when he issues a statement like this, someone - occasionally it is his wife - has their hand up his ass in the role of ventriloquist.

Look for a "new crop" of agitprop to sucker the rednecks, because Tom has essentially announced that they are focus-grouping it.

Mr. niteowl77

39 posted on 12/01/2016 4:08:34 AM PST by niteowl77 (Don't need no Bushes. Don't need no Clintons. Don't need no fooling around.)
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To: Olog-hai

“how can we better trick them into voting for us?”


40 posted on 12/01/2016 4:10:46 AM PST by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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