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FR MASTER THREAD: Recount info and updates for Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin
FR ^ | 11-28-16

Posted on 11/28/2016 9:48:58 AM PST by doug from upland

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To: doug from upland

Post 81 here on this thread by the poster Future Useless Eater looks spot on, that the recount fee hadn’t been properly paid by the deadline and therefore the Wisconsin recount should be stopped by a federal court. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3498729/posts


41 posted on 11/28/2016 11:20:32 AM PST by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

There is an apparent conflict between two statutes. One requires payment when filing for recount; the other references an estimate required to be given to the filer. If they did not give Stein the amount to pay, how could she pay it? This may end up in Wisconsin Supreme Court and perhaps SCOTUS. Here we go again.


42 posted on 11/28/2016 11:22:52 AM PST by doug from upland (Hillary, get the hell off the stage!)
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To: goldstategop; redfreedom

MI has more stringent rules on recounts than WI; h/t redfreedom

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3499119/posts?page=36#36


43 posted on 11/28/2016 11:24:52 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: doug from upland
Good analysis.

There is also an outstanding arrest warrant in North Dakota for the petitioner Jill Stein.

According to this post by Future Useless Eater the co-petitioner was in an embassy in Cuba, post #335. Also look at the signature of the petitioner and the notary on the petition. It looks like the same handwriting and that the same person signed as both the petitioner and the notary. Can't notarized one's own signature. This may have been done because it was done in Havana and they didn't have a U.S. Citizen notary there. Would think that this could make the whole petition fraudulent. Also it would qualify as fore in interference in a U.S. Election I believe. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3498729/posts

44 posted on 11/28/2016 11:30:14 AM PST by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

HERE IS JILL’S ARGUMENT IF IT GOES TO COURT —— she filed in a timely manner but the commission did not give her the estimate as required by Wisconsin law. Without that estimate, she could not pay. They admit in press release that they are still calculating the estimated fees.

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Per a press release posted to the Commission’s website, the recount will start late next week after the appropriate personnel have been assembled and after Stein pays the recount fee. While no expectations were given for a completion date, the Commission noted that the federal deadline for all recounts is December 13th.

“The Commission is preparing to move forward with a statewide recount of votes for President of the United States, as requested by these candidates,” Haas said.

“We have assembled an internal team to direct the recount, we have been in close consultation with our county clerk partners, and have arranged for legal representation by the Wisconsin Department of Justice,” Haas said. “We plan to hold a teleconference meeting for county clerks next week and anticipate the recount will begin late in the week after the Stein campaign has paid the recount fee, which we are still calculating.”


45 posted on 11/28/2016 11:33:56 AM PST by doug from upland (Hillary, get the hell off the stage!)
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To: doug from upland; LS

Info from LS re WI:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3498729/posts?page=103#103


46 posted on 11/28/2016 11:34:09 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: doug from upland

Think this was the link I meant to supply on the guy filing from the Embassy in Havana: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3498745/posts


47 posted on 11/28/2016 11:39:07 AM PST by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: doug from upland

I’ve read so many posts and so much conflicting information my head is spinning.

Regarding Pennsylvania: is it true that the only way a recount can happen is if Ms Stein petitions in court that there’s “prima facie” evidence of fraud, tampering, hacking, etc? If that’s true, I don’t see a recount happening. What are the facts regarding Pennsylvania? Thanks.


48 posted on 11/28/2016 11:49:36 AM PST by RooRoobird20 ("Democrats haven't been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves.")
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To: RooRoobird20

Here is a very detailed column on the PA recount, and why it is not going to happen.

http://janderresearch.blogspot.fi/2016/11/there-will-be-no-recount-in.html?m=1

One caveat - there are some precincts where the three-voter challenge can happen, but not enough to make a difference.


49 posted on 11/28/2016 11:55:09 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

Thank you


50 posted on 11/28/2016 11:57:02 AM PST by RooRoobird20 ("Democrats haven't been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves.")
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To: doug from upland

“Chad Livengood ;@ChadLivengood · 1h1 hour ago

ALERT: President-elect Trump has hired Lansing election law super attorneys Gary Gordon and John Pirich to represent him in Stein’s recount.”

Mihigan reporter, seems to have early info.
https://twitter.com/ChadLivengood


51 posted on 11/28/2016 11:57:24 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: doug from upland

What does it take to become an FR Master? Are their trials one has to pass?


52 posted on 11/28/2016 11:59:07 AM PST by xp38
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins; Future Useless Eater; doug from upland

Some info on what may happen in WI; recount might show Dem cheating (h/t tiger claws)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3498745/posts?page=314#314

De la fuente filed his petition from Havana (h/t future useless eater)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3498745/posts?page=335#335


53 posted on 11/28/2016 11:59:50 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: WildHighlander57

Wikipedia on De La Fuente has him running his campaign for President on $ 16,999 of contributions and $ 6.9 million in loans, had been informed by prior poster on thread of the loans amount.


54 posted on 11/28/2016 12:04:11 PM PST by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: xp38

Initiative and the perception that such is a good idea which will help other FReepers.


55 posted on 11/28/2016 12:05:21 PM PST by doug from upland (Hillary, get the hell off the stage!)
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To: WildHighlander57

This Wikipedia entry mentions Roque De La Fuente in relation to some alleged FDIC offense: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_De_La_Fuente


56 posted on 11/28/2016 12:07:44 PM PST by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: All

sing and mock the losers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ashVwUPNkRE&feature=youtu.be


57 posted on 11/28/2016 12:12:10 PM PST by doug from upland (Hillary, get the hell off the stage!)
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To: null and void

http://www.270towin.com/maps/2016-actual-electoral-map

Michigan reflected in electoral vote count


58 posted on 11/28/2016 12:14:34 PM PST by morphing libertarian (Proudly deplorable since 2016)
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To: doug from upland

LOL

That is flipping funny

Butthurt. Lol


59 posted on 11/28/2016 12:22:50 PM PST by QualityMan (I will not comply.)
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To: doug from upland

It’s over - Stein has dropped the PA lawsuit

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3499205/posts


60 posted on 11/28/2016 12:24:01 PM PST by dirtboy
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