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Why is Project Veritas not generating the outrage it should? (VANITY)
Project Veritas ^ | 10/21/2016 | Myself

Posted on 10/21/2016 6:41:05 AM PDT by rlmorel

James O'Keefe has produced documentation in his Project Veritas endeavor which has produced two videos that I know of to date (which can be found on Youtube as well, Part 1: Rigging the Election - Video I: Clinton Campaign and DNC Incite Violence at Trump Rallies and Part 2: Rigging the Election - Video II: Mass Voter Frauds.

I have watched these two videos, and the content astonishes me. But let me clarify that they do not astonish me the way they might astonish or startle many Americans, because the tactics are not new, I have seen evidence of this before, and being enough of a student of Liberalism to understand it better, I realize this is who they are and how they function.

I took the time to read Alinsky's work, and to read the books Obama has supposedly written as well to better understand the actions and tactics of liberals, and while absolutely none of it has surprised me, it has certainly disgusted me, particularly Alinsky, who is a demi-god to most upper ranking liberals today, significantly Obama and Clinton.

So, that doesn't surprise me at all that they are inciting violence, engaging in voter fraud, and breaking election laws left and right. As James O'Keefe says in the first video, there is strong evidence of criminality.

What surprises me is the level of smug arrogance the leftists in these videos exhibit, openly bragging about their activities, and the realization they feel obviously empowered to do this because they believe their backs are covered by the Administration, DNC, and other arms of the government populated under direct control of leftists "down with the cause" of liberalism and the tactics used to advance it. Arms such as the FBI, the DOJ, etc.

This is what the last eight years of Obama has brought to us.

The reason I am starting this thread is to discuss why this is not taking hold. It simply isn't because the news media is suppressing it, which they clearly are. It isn't because the candidates and national parties don't want to discuss it openly, which they don't. There is more to it. On the face of it, this should be exploding even with those factors.

the video is irrefutable. It is specific. It has times, places, and people.

It isn't video taken out of context, it is completely in context.

It isn't audio that might be faked. It is video of highly recognizable people, in expected locations, speaking on camera.

The people aren't nobodies, rogue operators, fringe players, autonomously operating on their own. These are two significant players who, between them, have visited the White House nearly 350 officially recorded times, and met PERSONALLY with the President of The United States 40+ times. Forty times. Watch the video, listen to what they say, and think about that. Nearly 350 visits overall in eight years to the seat of American political power, and met personally with ostensibly the most powerful political figure on earth. Again, watch the video, listen to what they say, and think about that.

When I saw this video, it impressed me as having the potential to be the most significant political developments in modern American political history. It should be generating a 9.6 earthquake on the political Richter Scale. Why isn't even barely registering, even taking into account the media and national party attempts to suppress it?

I recognize there are many factors at play, and it has only been a few days since this video was released. The Watergate scandal took several weeks to begin percolating.

I have also been told that these to key players, Robert Creamer and Scott Foval, are bit players, unknowns. My response to this is two-fold: First, these two men are not unknowns. They have been to the White House hundreds if times, Robert Creamer has even been photographed shopping with Michelle Obama. Secondly, in the past, people like Virgilio González, Bernard Barker, James McCord, Eugenio Martínez, and Frank Sturgis were real nobodies, and that didn't stop a political tsunami.

So, lets talk. What is this, why is this, in a time when it should explode with shock waves to the top of the White House and DNC, is this quietly sitting there?


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To: rlmorel

To add to this, I think this video series is so huge people don’t want to believe it. Voting is such a core piece of the American psyche that telling them it is corrupt is like telling them they have brain cancer. But in this case it isn’t the family doctor making the diagnosis, it is the “discredited” crazy doctor who lives deep in the woods. The patient feels there is something not right with their head, but because family doc says all is well, that’s what they believe. And, when people like Hillary are out there saying we’ve “done it this way for 240 years with no problems” it soothes that psyche.


61 posted on 10/21/2016 7:11:24 AM PDT by siberianheat
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To: RedStateRocker
I don't agree with your statement "... Everybody who can does anything they can to win..."

Anyone who pays attention, reads Alinsky to figure out why his acolytes do-what-they-do knows this is the way liberals operate, and it is in their DNA. They even openly admit it if you listen (up to now) and in the videos, they actually brag about it. "That incident? Yeah...it's mine!"

It is 100% the opposite with conservatives. And that explains why we often look like Charlie Brown kicking Lucy's football.

Embarrassingly.

62 posted on 10/21/2016 7:11:35 AM PDT by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: rlmorel

Think about the content of the Wikileaks and O’Keefe material. There is evidence of REAL CRIMES there. With journalists and Rat officials the journalists have been covering for for decades. Conspiring to hide crimes of associates is also a crime. And you wonder why “journalists” refuse to cover it? C’mon. Every Freeper is smarter than that.

The wife just called from work wondering if Freerepublic is still up because at work they were told “there is a world wide DNS attack on social media”. Wonder why? Who could be behind that? LOL. Does not sound like the behavior of people “who are winning”.


63 posted on 10/21/2016 7:12:17 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: rlmorel

If Mike Wallace or Morley Safer had broke this on 60 Minutes, would it be ignored? Interesting thought experiment.


64 posted on 10/21/2016 7:14:02 AM PDT by aligncare ( #NeverTrump #NeverRight)
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To: rktman

Thanks...it will take my mind off it, I am sure. I hope...


65 posted on 10/21/2016 7:14:14 AM PDT by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: rlmorel

It could be voters are so jaded they think both sides do that crap and it was just the dems that got caught. That is IF they even know about the tape which is doubtful for many that rely on the MSM for their news.


66 posted on 10/21/2016 7:14:25 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: rlmorel

the mass media is 99 percent burying, covering all the Obama’Hillary’Kerry scandals up

98 percent of the American people have never heard of Veritas

and, regrettably, MANY Americans are very comfortable with all the scandals, ripoffs, sedition, treason, and damage from
Obama.Hillary.Kerry

++some even applaud, like, encourage, want more of it


67 posted on 10/21/2016 7:18:25 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero. news)
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To: rlmorel

yup!

simple as being told 2+2=5. your brain questions it, but those in charge say it’s not a wrong answer and group think ( or “push” media) just starts following that lead and soon dismiss the questions in their mind and allow 5 to be acceptable answer - even though it’s not correct, right, best, because it causes problems elsewhere down the road.

People are so “Now” and “in the moment feel ok” focused, it’s become a huge problem.


68 posted on 10/21/2016 7:19:00 AM PDT by b4me (Idolatry is rampant in thoughts and actions. Choose whom you will serve....)
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To: rlmorel

I hear you and understand. I do believe Lucy’s time with the football is measured in HOURS at this point.


69 posted on 10/21/2016 7:20:39 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: rlmorel

Liberals took over the educational system two generations ago and have bred “critical thinking” and civics out of existence.

They have controlled the media even longer, so this is not surprising.

Why do you think Rush, Hannity, Savage, et al have risen up? If the media was doing its job that never could have happened. Now we have the internet as well. Otherwise you would never have seen these videos, period.


70 posted on 10/21/2016 7:20:39 AM PDT by bigbob (The Hillary indictment will have to come from us.)
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To: b4its2late

MSM not entirely ignoring them - just dismissing them as proven “untrue” - “false” - “misleading” - “forgeries” and so on - making any criticism for not covering them sound silly.

Actually were this about GOP operatives, the FBI and US AG would be launching. So they are, with their avoidance and the complicit MSM, proving that out current government is rigged for the special interest among the politically well connected and needs to be cleaned out quickly.


71 posted on 10/21/2016 7:20:43 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: VanDeKoik

Have a nice day.


72 posted on 10/21/2016 7:22:59 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: rlmorel

Because sheep remain sheep.


73 posted on 10/21/2016 7:23:30 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: HamiltonJay; rlmorel

“The conservative media are only reaching folks who are already committed to Trump... the MSM is basically treating it like Wiki... ignoring the whole thing.”

They can’t keep ignoring it forever, and there’s more coming soon. It would really be helpful if so many people weren’t so willing to throw up their hands and admit defeat before it’s over.

Videos Put Democrats on Defensive About Dirty Tricks

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/21/us/politics/video-dnc-trump-rallies.html?_r=1

Pay-to-Play Allegation: Abedin Implicated Clinton in $12 Million Foundation Trade-Off

http://nation.foxnews.com/2016/10/20/pay-play-allegation-abedin-implicated-clinton-12-million-foundation-trade


74 posted on 10/21/2016 7:28:01 AM PDT by Nacho Bidnith (America is a country founded by geniuses and run by idiots. Trump 2016)
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To: gaijin
"Most people are not like that, .most people probably do not even read a newspaper or watch a single news show in a week or maybe a month.

we are the ones who are unusual."

Bingo. Their hedonistic ignorance is what will do in this nation. I've often said we might survive the Obammunist, but we won't survive the generation that put him in power.

Start loading the magazines.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho! God Bless Texas!

75 posted on 10/21/2016 7:30:32 AM PDT by wku man (Just One Gun, the latest from 10 Pound Test - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6uFqQenIU4)
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To: rlmorel
I am not a defeatist by any stretch, but I am enough of realist to know that a critical mass of our populace has been either seriously brainwashed to accept the leftist view of the world, or are irretrievably evil in a nihilistic bent.

Electing the "correct" people, if possible, is not the remedy, because the problem is with the culture - it's people. We, as a whole, are no longer a moral or God-honoring (at least nominally) people, but are actively wicked and seeking ever-deeper levels of wickedness. The type of government envisioned by our Founders is not intended for and cannot work with such a people. And no election can remedy that.

That is the stark reality of where we are. We need to man up and accept that truth, while working our hardest to resist evil with everything we've got.

76 posted on 10/21/2016 7:32:45 AM PDT by fwdude (If we keep insisting on the lesser of two evils, that is exactly what they will give us from now on.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Yes, and plenty of people who are OK with ends-justify-the-means if they are in agreement with the ends.

This is not something new. In former Soviet states there were many people willing to go along with ends-justify-the-means tactics because they truly believed in communism. They would ‘denounce’ their family, friends, neighbors etc. if they thought it would further the ends.

So to in Germany pre WWII. People may not have liked all that was going on, but they believed in the larger cause and therefore either kept quiet or went along with it.

I call this the Stasi mentality. It may well be part of human nature, though I hate to think that.

For example: Many people may be uneasy about the violence and denouncement of masses of people ‘racists’ on the right ... but they turn a blind eye to it because they think it helps their side in the overall.


77 posted on 10/21/2016 7:36:54 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: rlmorel
"Why is Project Veritas not generating the outrage it should?"

As Morpheus said in the first movie, after a certain amount of time, some peoples minds are not willing or capable enough to leave "The Matrix".
78 posted on 10/21/2016 7:38:54 AM PDT by indthkr
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To: PIF

It’s a national Gaslight. I tell people the things I know, and they think that it can’t possibly be true. I just tell ‘em, this is just information, go verify it. We have no hope of arriving at like conclusions from completely opposite sets of data.

Unfortunately nobody can be told what the Matrix is. You have to see it for yourself.


79 posted on 10/21/2016 7:41:47 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: rlmorel

The citizenry is in a trance, having been given a post-hypnotic suggestion to ignore anything that questions it being in a trance.


80 posted on 10/21/2016 7:42:36 AM PDT by Montaignes Cat
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