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Why is Project Veritas not generating the outrage it should? (VANITY)
Project Veritas ^ | 10/21/2016 | Myself

Posted on 10/21/2016 6:41:05 AM PDT by rlmorel

James O'Keefe has produced documentation in his Project Veritas endeavor which has produced two videos that I know of to date (which can be found on Youtube as well, Part 1: Rigging the Election - Video I: Clinton Campaign and DNC Incite Violence at Trump Rallies and Part 2: Rigging the Election - Video II: Mass Voter Frauds.

I have watched these two videos, and the content astonishes me. But let me clarify that they do not astonish me the way they might astonish or startle many Americans, because the tactics are not new, I have seen evidence of this before, and being enough of a student of Liberalism to understand it better, I realize this is who they are and how they function.

I took the time to read Alinsky's work, and to read the books Obama has supposedly written as well to better understand the actions and tactics of liberals, and while absolutely none of it has surprised me, it has certainly disgusted me, particularly Alinsky, who is a demi-god to most upper ranking liberals today, significantly Obama and Clinton.

So, that doesn't surprise me at all that they are inciting violence, engaging in voter fraud, and breaking election laws left and right. As James O'Keefe says in the first video, there is strong evidence of criminality.

What surprises me is the level of smug arrogance the leftists in these videos exhibit, openly bragging about their activities, and the realization they feel obviously empowered to do this because they believe their backs are covered by the Administration, DNC, and other arms of the government populated under direct control of leftists "down with the cause" of liberalism and the tactics used to advance it. Arms such as the FBI, the DOJ, etc.

This is what the last eight years of Obama has brought to us.

The reason I am starting this thread is to discuss why this is not taking hold. It simply isn't because the news media is suppressing it, which they clearly are. It isn't because the candidates and national parties don't want to discuss it openly, which they don't. There is more to it. On the face of it, this should be exploding even with those factors.

the video is irrefutable. It is specific. It has times, places, and people.

It isn't video taken out of context, it is completely in context.

It isn't audio that might be faked. It is video of highly recognizable people, in expected locations, speaking on camera.

The people aren't nobodies, rogue operators, fringe players, autonomously operating on their own. These are two significant players who, between them, have visited the White House nearly 350 officially recorded times, and met PERSONALLY with the President of The United States 40+ times. Forty times. Watch the video, listen to what they say, and think about that. Nearly 350 visits overall in eight years to the seat of American political power, and met personally with ostensibly the most powerful political figure on earth. Again, watch the video, listen to what they say, and think about that.

When I saw this video, it impressed me as having the potential to be the most significant political developments in modern American political history. It should be generating a 9.6 earthquake on the political Richter Scale. Why isn't even barely registering, even taking into account the media and national party attempts to suppress it?

I recognize there are many factors at play, and it has only been a few days since this video was released. The Watergate scandal took several weeks to begin percolating.

I have also been told that these to key players, Robert Creamer and Scott Foval, are bit players, unknowns. My response to this is two-fold: First, these two men are not unknowns. They have been to the White House hundreds if times, Robert Creamer has even been photographed shopping with Michelle Obama. Secondly, in the past, people like Virgilio González, Bernard Barker, James McCord, Eugenio Martínez, and Frank Sturgis were real nobodies, and that didn't stop a political tsunami.

So, lets talk. What is this, why is this, in a time when it should explode with shock waves to the top of the White House and DNC, is this quietly sitting there?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: corruption; okeefe; projectveritas; veritas
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To: rlmorel

Twitter, Reddit and 4chan are all blowing up over this and there are many people digging deep to uncover more about the scope and breadth of these scandals.

I’m not all that familiar with Reddit, but The_Donald threads have thousands of people commenting on what they’ve found so far, and that’s tracing all these troublemakers at the Trump rallies back to the DNC, Creamer, Foval, and others named in the O’Keefe videos.

There are also numerous threads for the wikileaks as well.

You are correct, the msm is doing all they can to suppress this information, but social media is all over it.

It remains to be seen which side will prevail but it is not dead by any means, it’s alive and kicking.


41 posted on 10/21/2016 6:59:38 AM PDT by Nacho Bidnith (America is a country founded by geniuses and run by idiots. Trump 2016)
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To: rlmorel
You know how the New York Slimes' motto is "all the news that's fit to print"? Well, the mainstream media American Pravda decided that the revelations of Project Veritas are not fit to print; therefore, they are not "news".
42 posted on 10/21/2016 6:59:53 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (Time to get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US.)
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To: rlmorel

Ok... Gabriel is a leftist but the words in this song seem apropos....

You can blow out a candle
But you can’t blow out a fire
Once the flames begin to catch
The wind will blow it higher


43 posted on 10/21/2016 7:00:35 AM PDT by hecticskeptic
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To: rlmorel

If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?

If something happens and no one reports it, is it news?


44 posted on 10/21/2016 7:01:24 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: VanDeKoik; Envisioning; ClearCase_guy; Behind the Blue Wall; wildbill; rktman; RoseofTexas; ...
I have been around and active in these things for a long time, so I know how all of that works. As I said in the thread starter, I am taking that into account.

But when you look at the video, the open criminality, a clear trail to the top, especially when coupled with the Wikileaks emails, and the picture is damning. And undeniable.

I recognize (and the parties involved do too as well) that the only way out of this is to bald face lie, tell people that their eyes aren't seeing what they see, that the people bringing this to light are criminals and bad actors, the people being outed are bit players, rogue actors acting independently, it was all just joking or conceptual in nature, and people bothered by it are all taking this out of context.

When I first watched the videos, I predicted (accurately) all of these approaches and more, and they have all been borne out, which though expected, is still disconcerting.

Be back tonight, heading back to work...

45 posted on 10/21/2016 7:01:56 AM PDT by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: fwdude

THAT is what I am afraid of, fwdude. If that is the case, our country may be irretrievably lost already.

And I do fear that.


46 posted on 10/21/2016 7:03:08 AM PDT by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: PA-RIVER
Friends and relatives, behind close doors, would support beating people and killing people who don’t vote the right way, for Obama and Hillary. That is where we are.

I wish more people understood this. This is true on so many levels. I often see this when discussing gun control with associates and family. When they say "they should lock up those a$$holes with the AR-15 assault rifles," I silently think they are unknowingly suggesting I go to prison. And on Facebook I see zealots for progressivism say almost the exact words you used. Arrest the climate deniers! Arrest those who would refuse Obamacare! Kill the haters! Arrest those who disagree with me!!!!

Then they wonder why there is no civil discourse on Facebook anymore.
47 posted on 10/21/2016 7:03:52 AM PDT by siberianheat
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To: rlmorel

Have a great day at work.


48 posted on 10/21/2016 7:03:55 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: stonehouse01

Our systems (communications, data, utilities, navigation) are being probed constantly, looking for holes and weaknesses. Much has already been conscripted, imo. We are a big, fat, juicy peach.

Heavy arming of alphabet agencies. Second ever national emergency alert system test weeks ago. Russia getting defensively active. If we start seeing mysterious losses of internet, cell and GPS...

Be prepared.


49 posted on 10/21/2016 7:04:21 AM PDT by polymuser (Enough is enough!)
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To: rlmorel

Because no one is surprised? It’s kind of ‘dog bites man’. Everybody who can does anything they can to win.

And because Trump made a statement that can so easily be taken out of context to enrage the masses. I mean on the face of it, be they democrat or republican, if they won’t accept the *FINAL* results of the electoral college then declare them in rebellion and hang them for treason. But the context of ‘If I win’... sigh, what a headline....


50 posted on 10/21/2016 7:04:44 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: wildbill

“The internet may be a bubbling cauldron of outrage among conservative partisans—but if the major public networks and major newspapers don’t cover it—and their commentators don’t discuss it, then it doesn’t make a sound.”

Yeah, ok.

If you aren’t helping spreading it, and instead are going to leftist media outlets looking to see if the work of those of us that are, is being “acknowledged” by them, and claiming that it isnt reaching anyone because they wont talk about it, then you arent of any help to us, and would do far better to just pipe down and cry in front of your CNN feed.

Like what the hell is wrong with some of you?


51 posted on 10/21/2016 7:06:40 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: rlmorel

Because if you’re not a political junky on the lookout for this stuff you won’t see the videos unless someone sends it to you and then shows up at your door to make you watch it. The story’s getting virtually NO coverage anywhere. It gets mentioned on Hannity, Varney and Co. and Lou Dobbs but nowhere else.


52 posted on 10/21/2016 7:06:40 AM PDT by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: rlmorel

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Uhm, otherwise what story are you talking about.....sarc.

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53 posted on 10/21/2016 7:08:47 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: rlmorel

The “mainstream media” knows that the majority of the people living in this country are way too stupid to understand this. It’s much easier for them to understand Allred’s 10th Grab Bag Nag accusing Trump of “groping” her.


54 posted on 10/21/2016 7:09:06 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Clintoon will be the "historical" first unindicted felon to sit in the Oval Office. Be proud!)
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To: rlmorel
Have you seen those bumper stickers saying “TURN OFF FOX NEWS”? That's it in a nutshell. Not that FOX has covered it well. Frankly, I don't really know how well they have because I NEVER watch TV news. But many have been programmed to distrust anything but the MSM. Many avoid news altogether.
There are many on Twitter and reddit who are promoting it and getting it “trending” or whatever it's called on YouTube.
55 posted on 10/21/2016 7:09:09 AM PDT by stayathomemom ( Read Shadow Men, The Progressive Virus, and The Marxist Playbook by Dr. Anthony Napoleon)
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To: b4its2late

Most Americans continue to “trust” the media to give them ^their^ (the populace) news.
The media complies by telling them what they (the media) thinks America wants to hear.

That way...well, no one gets killed.
Capice?


56 posted on 10/21/2016 7:09:58 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic, Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: rlmorel

Because its largely not being reported... pure and simple...

The conservative media are only reaching folks who are already committed to Trump... the MSM is basically treating it like Wiki... ignoring the whole thing.


57 posted on 10/21/2016 7:10:02 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: rlmorel

The Praetorian Media is the #1 enemy. They are spending their historical public capital as a font of “truthiness” in conjunction with one/both major parties stage a coup on behalf of the ruling class.

They are actively hunting for a purchase to discredit Veritas, having only the prior arrest of O’Keefe thus far. In this environment of weaponized government, anyone who opposes the ruling class can be attacked and destroyed by the organs of the state (see: D’Souza, Dinesh).

tl;dr: They Live, We Sleep.


58 posted on 10/21/2016 7:10:35 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: rlmorel

Exactly. The disconcerting thing is that The Party is now allowed to lie with impunity. There is no check or balance on their actions. They say whatever. Unemployment is 4.6%. The deficit is down. Hillary did not collapse in NYC in September. Donald Trump has served time in prison for rape. Bill Clinton was never impeached. Etc.

It’s “whatever”.

Really scary that there may be no way to stop this.


59 posted on 10/21/2016 7:11:03 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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To: Sequoyah101

“Because it is not getting any drive by press”

So why do you care?!

Are some of you so-called conservatives actually sitting around looking at these outlets to do YOUR DAMN JOB!?

You sit and bitch about how bias they are and calling them the “dinosaur media”, then you sit there and wait for them to spread information you should be doing yourself!

THIS is why the_Donald has become the spear of the right that FR was in 2004. FR is so full of BSers and the most lazy cowards at this point, it’s almost not worth expecting much from folks here other than to make sure they dont cause problems for those of us that are trying to do something.


60 posted on 10/21/2016 7:11:05 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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