Could Russia Really Shoot Down an F-22, F-35 or B-2 Stealth Bomber in Syria?

The National Interest ^ | October 7th, 2016 | Dave Majumdar

[Mariner]

There are two conclusive and certain ways to beat stealth.

1. Use VHF radar to get your heat-seeking missiles within a mile...

2. Take out the stealth aircraft on the ground.

I'm pretty sure Russia and China are working on both.

[butlerweave]

Obama can’t wait to try and then Surrender

[BenLurkin]

Not if there aren’t any flying there.

So call your Congressman and tell him to push back against the Obama support for ISIS.

[max americana]

Yup. He’s got 100 more days before he destroys the army. Turning them into fags aint enough.

[RedWulf]

You know a stealth cruise missiles would come in really useful right now. Too bad the dems sunk the program.

[Chode]

NONE of those planes should be used in the Syrian arena

[taildragger]

"As tensions between Washington and Moscow flare, the Russian military is warning the United States that it has the ability to target stealth aircraft such as the Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor, F-35 Joint Strike Fighter and Northrop Grumman B-2 Spirit that might be operating over Syria with the Almaz-Antey S-400 (NATO: SA-21 Growler) and the recently arrived S-300V4 (NATO: SA-23 Gladiator) air and missile defense systems."

Love to know Israel's response too the S-300 & 400. And despite Obama's prickly relationship with Bibi and Israel, did they share their counter too these weapons w/ BHO....

[Truth29]

Well, the Serbs managed to shoot down an F117 with old Russian equipment. We tried to pass off the shoot down as a one in a million shot a “magic bb, but was it? So yes, they could.

[buffaloguy]

There probably is a fairly large window of opportunity to create false positives and create confusion resulting in wasted launches.

I suspect that it is part of the plan.

[eekitsagreek]

Never underestimate the capabilities of a potential enemy.

No one thought Japan could produce the Zero fighter or attack Pearl Harbor.
No one expected Russia to produce the T-34 tank, the Mig-15 or Sputnik.
How many expected Osama bin Laden to have the capability to mastermind 9/11?

[Disestablishmentarian]

There are two conclusive and certain ways to beat stealth.
1. Use VHF radar to get your heat-seeking missiles within a mile...
2. Take out the stealth aircraft on the ground.

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Also, despite the propaganda about the invincible F-35, robot aircraft could fly circles around it because the human pilot cannot take the same G-forces. (Think China: robot-manufacturing capital of the world.)

[MichaelCorleone]

“Obama can’t wait to try and then Surrender”

As opposed to the NeoCon nutjobs in the Republican Party who can’t wait to try and then commence another endless war with ridiculous rules of engagement...

[Uncle Sam 911]

the questions should be could they and would they? Maybe they could get off a lucky shot but they know the ramifications for such a thing would be huge, under any other President. But I believe Putin surely has reserved that decision for himself of some very high ranking person under strict orders to get it right before pulling the trigger.

[dowcaet]

While the left, the MSM and other NeverTrumpers obsess over Trump’s “lewd” comments the Red Menace is awakening and aren’t you confident of the DC team we have to fight them? We are in such deep trouble.

[CondorFlight]

Why are the loons in the administration trying to poke the bear?

Do they want a repeat of August 1914?

[Rashputin]

I could be wrong, but as far as I can tell, the last strike Israel flew against a target in Syria was in the Golan Heights a week before the S300s arrived or just as they were arriving and not yet set up.

If they have a counter, they're not going to show their hand until there's something worth letting the Russians know they have the counter; i.e. against something much more important than targets in Syria that can be attacked by artillery or commandos.

If the US were to begin air-strikes my bet is they'd first let the US go in without whatever they've worked out for themselves which then makes any effective counter they may have worth a lot more if the US is foiled, and if the US has no problems, lets them know they don't need to share whatever they have until it becomes worth more to the US.

JMHo based on past history

[PIF]

The Serbs’ shoot down was because the F-117 pilots were forced by Wesley, the Butcher of Belgrade, Clarke to fly the exact same route, altitude, and time mission after mission. No magic needed, just predictability ...

[Vehmgericht]

Wouldn’t it be cool to find out. After all the only loss would be a dead pilot and possibly a third world war. A lot of damage can be done in 100 days.

[Mariner]

"Also, despite the propaganda about the invincible F-35, robot aircraft could fly circles around it because the human pilot cannot take the same G-forces. (Think China: robot-manufacturing capital of the world.)"

3. Robot aircraft (UCAV) could be guided to them by VHF/UHF radar, then those aircraft could target them with IR missiles not unlike the Sidewinder.

[PIF]

The invincible F-35 cannot fly far enough to do anything - it is so range limited it would have to be positioned in Syria to be effective if it could carry any bomb load which amounted to anything.

There are no known drones which could pull off anything bomb-wise anywhere in Syria with out being shot down within seconds of crossing the Syrian boarder.