Posted on 10/08/2016 10:32:20 AM PDT by Mariner
As tensions between Washington and Moscow flare, the Russian military is warning the United States that it has the ability to target stealth aircraft such as the Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor, F-35 Joint Strike Fighter and Northrop Grumman B-2 Spirit that might be operating over Syria with the Almaz-Antey S-400 (NATO: SA-21 Growler) and the recently arrived S-300V4 (NATO: SA-23 Gladiator) air and missile defense systems. However, Western defense officials and analysts are skeptical and note that both the F-22 and the F-35 were specifically designed to counter those Russian-developed weapons.
"Russian S-300, S-400 air defense systems deployed in Syria's Hmeymim and Tartus have combat ranges that may surprise any unidentified airborne targets, Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Major General Igor Konashenkov told the Russian state media outlet Sputnik. Operators of Russian air defense systems won't have time to identify the origin of airstrikes, and the response will be immediate. Any illusions about invisible jets will inevitably be crushed by disappointing reality.
However, while Moscow makes bold claims about the counter-stealth capabilities of their S-400 and S-300V4 air defense systems, the fact remains that even if Russian low-frequency search and acquisitions radars can detect and track tactical fighter-sized stealth aircraft such as the F-22 or F-35, fire control radars operating in C, X and Ku bands cannot paint low observable (LO) jets except at very close ranges. Stealth is notand never has beeninvisibility, but it does offer greatly delayed detection so that a fighter or bomber and can engage a target and leave before the enemy has time to react.
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1. Use VHF radar to get your heat-seeking missiles within a mile...
2. Take out the stealth aircraft on the ground.
I'm pretty sure Russia and China are working on both.
Obama can’t wait to try and then Surrender
Not if there aren’t any flying there.
So call your Congressman and tell him to push back against the Obama support for ISIS.
Yup. He’s got 100 more days before he destroys the army. Turning them into fags aint enough.
Love to know Israel's response too the S-300 & 400. And despite Obama's prickly relationship with Bibi and Israel, did they share their counter too these weapons w/ BHO....
Well, the Serbs managed to shoot down an F117 with old Russian equipment. We tried to pass off the shoot down as a one in a million shot a “magic bb, but was it? So yes, they could.
There probably is a fairly large window of opportunity to create false positives and create confusion resulting in wasted launches.
I suspect that it is part of the plan.
No one thought Japan could produce the Zero fighter or attack Pearl Harbor.
No one expected Russia to produce the T-34 tank, the Mig-15 or Sputnik.
How many expected Osama bin Laden to have the capability to mastermind 9/11?
There are two conclusive and certain ways to beat stealth.
1. Use VHF radar to get your heat-seeking missiles within a mile...
2. Take out the stealth aircraft on the ground.
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Also, despite the propaganda about the invincible F-35, robot aircraft could fly circles around it because the human pilot cannot take the same G-forces. (Think China: robot-manufacturing capital of the world.)
“Obama cant wait to try and then Surrender”
As opposed to the NeoCon nutjobs in the Republican Party who can’t wait to try and then commence another endless war with ridiculous rules of engagement...
the questions should be could they and would they? Maybe they could get off a lucky shot but they know the ramifications for such a thing would be huge, under any other President. But I believe Putin surely has reserved that decision for himself of some very high ranking person under strict orders to get it right before pulling the trigger.
While the left, the MSM and other NeverTrumpers obsess over Trump’s “lewd” comments the Red Menace is awakening and aren’t you confident of the DC team we have to fight them? We are in such deep trouble.
Why are the loons in the administration trying to poke the bear?
Do they want a repeat of August 1914?
If they have a counter, they're not going to show their hand until there's something worth letting the Russians know they have the counter; i.e. against something much more important than targets in Syria that can be attacked by artillery or commandos.
If the US were to begin air-strikes my bet is they'd first let the US go in without whatever they've worked out for themselves which then makes any effective counter they may have worth a lot more if the US is foiled, and if the US has no problems, lets them know they don't need to share whatever they have until it becomes worth more to the US.
JMHo based on past history
The Serbs’ shoot down was because the F-117 pilots were forced by Wesley, the Butcher of Belgrade, Clarke to fly the exact same route, altitude, and time mission after mission. No magic needed, just predictability ...
Wouldn’t it be cool to find out. After all the only loss would be a dead pilot and possibly a third world war. A lot of damage can be done in 100 days.
3. Robot aircraft (UCAV) could be guided to them by VHF/UHF radar, then those aircraft could target them with IR missiles not unlike the Sidewinder.
The invincible F-35 cannot fly far enough to do anything - it is so range limited it would have to be positioned in Syria to be effective if it could carry any bomb load which amounted to anything.
There are no known drones which could pull off anything bomb-wise anywhere in Syria with out being shot down within seconds of crossing the Syrian boarder.
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