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Please help me win an argument
Self | 10/07/2016 | Vanity

Posted on 10/07/2016 10:20:29 AM PDT by ProudFossil

Will somebody please explain to me how this can be? Trump draws tens of thousands to an event, Clinton draws a couple of hundred. The polls show Clinton ahead of Trump by 5 to 15 points. My wife and I argue about this all the time watching the news. I would think that Trump would be 20 points ahead, she says no. Her reason is people that go to the events do not answer the polls.

Thank you.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election; hillary; trump
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The most important thing to do for every male FReeper is to convince your wife to vote for Trump. Then work on your mother, sisters and daughters.


61 posted on 10/07/2016 10:56:40 AM PDT by Lisbon1940 (Trump-Pence 2016: No full-term Governors!)
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To: ProudFossil

Easy answer. It will make the voter fraud so much more legitimate. The “fix” is in.


62 posted on 10/07/2016 10:58:02 AM PDT by parthian shot
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To: ProudFossil

I have a Trump t-shirt. Wearing it one night and we decided to out to eat. My 19 year old son asked me why I was changing my shirt and I told him I didn’t want anyone spitting in my food.


63 posted on 10/07/2016 11:00:53 AM PDT by Mean Daddy (Every time Hillary lies, a demon gets its wings. - Windflier)
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To: Yo-Yo

I predict that Trump, regardless of who wins the electoral college will win the popular vote by a wide margin.


64 posted on 10/07/2016 11:02:26 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Lester Holt — Clinton House Boy.)
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To: ProudFossil
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She's not even campaigning and she's ahead?!?! If that's the case and she wins, this country is done.

65 posted on 10/07/2016 11:03:48 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Deplorable Me)
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To: ProudFossil

Mixed marriages hardly ever work out. Sorry.


66 posted on 10/07/2016 11:05:08 AM PDT by jessduntno (The mind of a liberal...deceit, desire for control, greed, contradiction and fueled by hate.)
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To: FXRP

Look, if I *argue* with you, I must take up a contrary position!

It isn’t just saying ‘no it isn’t’.


67 posted on 10/07/2016 11:05:46 AM PDT by Mr. K (<a href="https://imgflip.com/i/1adpjl"><img src="https://i.imgflip.com/1adpjl.jpg" title="made at im)
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To: nwrep
Polls do a random sample across the population. Rallies only bring out the faithful. Polls measure likely voters, not likely rally goers.

Ron Paul agrees.

68 posted on 10/07/2016 11:05:53 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Mr. K

Yes it is.


69 posted on 10/07/2016 11:06:22 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: ProudFossil

She may be right. Its far easier to vote than it is to go to a rally. Democrats are lazy, ergo, more voters that dont go to rallies.


70 posted on 10/07/2016 11:07:02 AM PDT by Paradox ("Wishing for a tautology to enact itself is not a strategy.")
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To: ProudFossil

It is imperative that polls are at least close to actual results to impede and discourage dissent when the actual results (which will clearly be fraudulent) come out.

Even the polls which show Trump ahead will NOT be allowed to show true voter sentiment because there is absolutely no way to predict how successful the fraudulent efforts will be.

The media’s marching orders are clear... Make sure that when Hillary wins, the general public consensus is that more voted for her instead of him, and that whatever voter fraud does exist was not enough to make a difference.

Anytime you have actual results reporting over 100% voter turnout as we saw in the last few elecions, the conclusion about it’s validity is obvious.


71 posted on 10/07/2016 11:07:53 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: ProudFossil

Don’t believe anyone who tells you that the YUGE difference in attendance at events doesn’t mean anything.

Trump fills a stadium, and THOUSANDS who can’t get in.

Hillary can’t fill a high school gym, even though she PAYS people to be there.

It doesn’t mean ANYTHING??????

I have two words for you......common sense.

Polls

If a poll is positive for Trump, believe it!

If a poll is negative for Trump, it’s RIGGED!

Our government and our media are sooooo CORRUPT that you can’t trust them at all.

THEY LIE

remember...common sense.

Trump will win in a landslide. It will be the biggest presidential election upset (to the media) in history.

GO TRUMP/Pence!


72 posted on 10/07/2016 11:08:03 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: ProudFossil

Because the polls are faked and trying to demoralize their enemy—just like Tokyo Rose attempted to do.


73 posted on 10/07/2016 11:09:04 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: dfwgator

Based on studies, a historian told me, very long ago, of two attributes vital for achievement in the Roman Senate, viz;
* Bearing: a Senator’s way of moving, standing and talking. * Presence: a Senator’s public behavior and demeanor.
Pence had both last week. Trump would be wise to emulate him, if he can shed his petulance and humorlessness.
Polls will give you any result you want. Forget them.
A transformational election is in the making.
Can Trump rise to the occasion and seize the moment?????


74 posted on 10/07/2016 11:09:16 AM PDT by Arrian
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To: ProudFossil

You have no “win” to this argument until Nov 8th.

Go get some pizza.


75 posted on 10/07/2016 11:11:25 AM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: ProudFossil
it’s called ruling establishment propaganda and control of the MSM. Anyone who refuses to accept that as truth/fact is hopelessly caught up in the ruling establishment’s criminal world, which includes a majority of the democrats
76 posted on 10/07/2016 11:11:45 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: ProudFossil

Events don’t mean anything. Polls don’t mean anything. TV news doesn’t mean anything. The only way to win this argument is to stop paying attention to meaningless things. By the time you’re discussing this kind of dumb stuff with your wife you’ve passed up a lot of more entertaining things the two of you could be doing.


77 posted on 10/07/2016 11:12:38 AM PDT by discostu (If you need to load or unload go to the white zone, you'll love it, it's a way of life)
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To: ProudFossil

MSM and all polls are always just to control the perceptions of the masses. They lie.

Trump would win by a landslide if there were no illegal voting or control over the voting machines. But the “polls” reflect what the cartel is going to “do” so everyone “believes” the results.

Ray Bradbury stated decades ago, that MSM is never about the truth, but only for control of perceptions and is distraction (so we allow takeover).

Obama won by cheating-—all Democrats win by cheating-—dead people vote. boxes of ballots disappear-—Mail destroys veteran votes from abroad or blocks them. Illegals are bussed in to vote paid and funded by Soros like BLM. They get millions for “voting” for the D by these psychopathic elites.

The psychopathic sodomites have put all their little cartel system in place-—in control of ALL important institutions-—they even have the SCOTUS-—so their Will Be Done.

Without a revolution of good people monitoring the COUNTING of votes and the ‘System” which Leftists can hack and control-—we can kiss this socialist country goodbye....since socialism always will devolve into communism—complete tyranny (slavery), where a few filthy wealthy elites control and cull the cattle and can have their orgies with the little boys they emasculate and program with “pride’ in anal sex. Their utopia-—is Sodom and Gomorrah and all Christian Worldview has to be erased in children so Slavery is Freedom and Vice is Virtue.

Without Virtue, civil society collapses.....Cultural Marxists knew that when they took over Hollywood and the school system so they could program their worldview in our children and destroy virtue (kill God)......to make them into “happy compliant slaves”.

Without God, everything is permissible (Dostoevsky) God is Dead in America-—and Europe. He was banned by “Just” Law in the 60s so children could be groomed into sodomy and satanism.....totally emasculated and have their natural instincts destroyed and Common Sense destroyed.


78 posted on 10/07/2016 11:16:22 AM PDT by savagesusie (When Law ceases to be Just, it ceases to be Law. (Thomas A./Founders/John Marshall)/Nuremberg)
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To: Arrian

>>if he can shed his petulance and humorlessness.
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We get more than enough Trump bashing elsewhere, thanks.

I do not find him to be petulant or humorless. Rather, I admire and respect his courage to be himself, a real fighter, to not back down, to be HONEST and genuine, and say just what he thinks. His personality is what touches people’s hearts. It makes him interesting as opposed to being insufferably boring.

I would say Pence should take lessons from Trump, but really, God made each of us with different attributes and demeanor. I respect that.

It’s all one’s point of view.


79 posted on 10/07/2016 11:16:36 AM PDT by Right-wing Librarian
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To: Billthedrill

No it ISN’T! Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says.


80 posted on 10/07/2016 11:17:30 AM PDT by Mr. K (<a href="https://imgflip.com/i/1adpjl"><img src="https://i.imgflip.com/1adpjl.jpg" title="made at im)
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