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Hillary Clinton’s Tactic: Civil Firearms Forfeiture
Politichicks ^ | 8-12-2016 | Steven Maikoski

Posted on 08/12/2016 6:31:32 AM PDT by Loud Mime

If Hillary Clinton wins the presidency, it is likely that your Second Amendment rights will mean nothing. The constitutional protections we have depended on for years have failed when the liberals control a court; and it is likely that Hillary will redefine all courts.

The liberals’ successful record of civil asset forfeitures provides a fine example of how they can get around the constitutional protections provided by the Fifth and Second Amendments. In many civil asset forfeiture cases, the citizen has not been found guilty of any crime, but the government swoops in to seize—pardon me, to force the forfeiture of—their property and cash. This is a civil act on the part of government, not a criminal action. So, fighting their legal teams and sympathetic judges is horribly expensive and often useless.

From the liberal successes we can predict how a Hillary government will use legalities and mutant judgements to seize your firearms, along with your ammunition without touching the Second Amendment. The stage is already set. A search of proposals in Congress shows that there are over 2,000 filings with “gun” & “control” in their bodies. Over two thousand! Each has a new angle on how to restrict gun purchases and possession, all in the name of protection and safety—and it’s getting worse.

On June 27, 2016 the Supreme Court of the United States ruled in Voisine & Armstrong v. United States, that persons who are convicted of misdemeanor assault may be prohibited by law from possessing a firearm—a misdemeanor! In reading the opinion of Justice Kagan, I was struck by the energy of this ruling. It makes no difference between a person intentionally harming another or a person accidentally causing harm in a domestic dispute. It blurs the distinction between actual and attempted use of physical force; it even includes “offensive touching” as a crime.

Bottom line: This ruling has made it far easier for government to confiscate firearms and ammunition.

The Second Amendment’s clause “shall not be infringed” has meant little to the courts for decades. Now it means almost nothing, because under the right circumstances—such as angering a liberal—touching a person can cause you to lose your Second Amendment rights! The wild rulings have erected a new playground for spirited attorneys and their clients to obtain large settlements and revocations of our constitutional rights, despite our Constitution’s “protections.”

Let’s get back to Hillary Clinton. Her coded speech is interesting. When she stated that she will not repeal the Second Amendment, we should take that as a warning that she will control firearms in another way. It is assured that Hillary and company will employ the liberal tactic of the manipulation and mutation of law to make a repeal unnecessary. Once they set up a corrupted justice system they can use the courts and their attorneys to portray any person who desires a certain type of gun, or more than fifty rounds of ammunition, as a dangerous person. From that point you will see the firearms forfeiture process take wing.

There is a possibility that a massive seizure of firearms may leave the civil arena. The conservative’s straight-line, constitutional thinking has been continuously out-litigated by the liberals’ creative, far-fetched thinking and mutations of justice. So, in the liberals’ next creative application of law, it is reasonable to expect them to use a phrase from the Constitution which gives incredible powers to the government: “the public Safety may require it.”

These words are from Article I, Section 9 of the Constitution, which gives Congress, under certain circumstances, the power to suspend the writ of habeas corpus. Why should gun control be any different when the public safety may require the new restrictions? If you read the pages of resolutions before Congress, you will see that the “whereas” sections are packed with statistics and examples of how dangerous guns are. The liberals see public safety as a tool to solve the gun problem.

Don’t take the gun grab with indifference. During the Republican Convention, former Navy Seal Marcus Luttrell said “Your war is here! You don’t have to find it!” This war is to keep our nation from losing to two enemies: Islam and Liberalism. We have to get serious about this election. The armchair warriors with their “Molon Labe” bumper stickers are good talk, but they’re just talk. We have to do everything we can to stop Hillary Clinton from winning the presidency. Our republican form of government cannot survive a shot from a Hillary presidency.

I will end this with a note from a great founding father, Samuel Adams:

“The liberties of our country, the freedoms of our civil Constitution are worth defending at all hazards; it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors. They purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood. It will bring a mark of everlasting infamy on the present generation – enlightened as it is – if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of designing men.”

When our nation’s future is at stake, I advise our patriots to vote with that in mind.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; firearms; forfeiture; guns; hillary
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To: tomkat

Saving that quote.


41 posted on 08/12/2016 9:17:08 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obamca loves America)
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To: Loud Mime
Perfect time to dust off the Ayn Rand quote from Atlas Shrugged.

"There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals.
When there aren't enough criminals, one makes them.
One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws."

42 posted on 08/12/2016 9:18:48 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: Red in Blue PA

also grab #42 while you’re at it.


43 posted on 08/12/2016 9:25:53 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: Grampa Dave

Good cartoon


44 posted on 08/12/2016 9:49:08 AM PDT by Cats Pajamas (That chicken necked buck tooth varmint is headed toward the nine circles of hell)
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To: 556x45

>Lets just name it for what it is...armed robbery.

You must have hit POST before completing the sentence: ...under Color of Law.

Course, one needs ‘standing’ to use T18S242...unless you’re on the Left.


45 posted on 08/12/2016 9:54:44 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: Loud Mime; Ken H

>Very Orwellian.

Yep. As is the usage of ‘kingpin’ when, I’d bet, that tally breaks down to multitudes of ~$10K amounts vs. $M+ (aka NON-’kingpins’)

Let alone the lack of prosecution statistics, or how well the border was\is secured to stem the flow to begin (*BWAhaha*. Sorry, couldn’t contain myself on that last part).


46 posted on 08/12/2016 10:03:55 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: Vinnie

I had forgotten about that quote. It’ s dead-on correct, and it’s dead-on what we are living now.


47 posted on 08/12/2016 10:42:17 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Liberalism: Intolerance masquerading as tolerance)
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To: Red in Blue PA

That politician was Stalin, if I remember correctly.


48 posted on 08/12/2016 10:43:22 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Liberalism: Intolerance masquerading as tolerance)
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To: Loud Mime

Imagine Washington DC with no water, no food and no electricity.

Just think of it for a few minutes.


49 posted on 08/12/2016 11:46:11 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Psalm 144

It is better to die in the Warsaw Ghetto than to buy a few wretched months at Auschwitz.


50 posted on 08/12/2016 12:05:53 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
It is better to die in the Warsaw Ghetto

And take a few Nazis with you in the process.

51 posted on 08/12/2016 12:07:19 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Loud Mime

..........good observation but “what’s the alternative”???

............if your advocating loss of the 2nd Ammendment and complete capitulation to Federal Bureaucracy and government confiscation of everything like Venezuela has done, all in the name of a paycheck or keeping a military base, I don’t think many Freepers or Americans or Texans at large agree with that alternative view................

I think millions of Texans and Americans around the country subscribe to that old Nathan Hale alledged saying “give me liberty or give me death”..............and take your base and your paycheck and your “strings attached return of our tax money”..............I’ll do sumpthin else, thank you very much.


52 posted on 08/12/2016 12:10:45 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: PJammers

No.


53 posted on 08/12/2016 12:27:05 PM PDT by econjack
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To: Loud Mime

Why would anyone think a Democrat could take something from me that was my God given right? HA. Good luck with that donkey.


54 posted on 08/12/2016 12:29:16 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: Cen-Tejas

I’ve learned that many “patriots” are profiteers first. They talk a lot, but $$$ is their focus.

The day of reckoning will be interesting when it arrives. I know of a few people that we can not count on.


55 posted on 08/12/2016 1:09:24 PM PDT by Loud Mime (Liberalism: Intolerance masquerading as tolerance)
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To: Loud Mime

..........your point has an exclamation point. It’s called the Revolutionary War.

More Americans by far were killed fighting other Americans (Tories vs Patriots) than were killed fighting the British!


56 posted on 08/12/2016 1:29:09 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: Cen-Tejas
More Americans by far were killed fighting other Americans (Tories vs Patriots) than were killed fighting the British!

Hmmm...that translates today to liberals vs. conservatives, when the latter has the tactics and weaponry. Talk about a mismatch.

57 posted on 08/12/2016 2:23:46 PM PDT by Loud Mime (Liberalism: Intolerance masquerading as tolerance)
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To: Loud Mime

your batting a thousand today!

I left a thousand rounds of .223 in my storage unit in Alaska.

Will have to remedy that sooner than going back to Alaska next summer.


58 posted on 08/12/2016 3:58:56 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: Cen-Tejas

A few years ago I was on a jury that heard a case involving a guy who had 400 rounds of ammo in his house. When we started deliberating everybody said that’s a LOT of ammo - - this was in California.

Oh, bull, I said. I have three times that amount within arms reach of my nightstand, several times more in my closet. Even more in my gun safe. You don’t see me gunning down people, do you?

Hell, I even knew more about this stuff than the DA’s ‘experts.’ What a joke that was.


60 posted on 08/12/2016 5:36:51 PM PDT by Loud Mime (Liberalism: Intolerance masquerading as tolerance)
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