Posted on 07/20/2016 9:11:44 AM PDT by Kaslin
Turkey’s failed coup, combined with the disastrous disunity and polarization in the United States thanks to Barack Obama, have gotten people talking about whether it could happen here. For example, part-time law professor and full-time Instapundit Glenn Reynold has recently taken some serious looks at the issue of coups within the context of the American system of checks and balances. So what if next January Obama and his barely post-puberty band of juice box screw-ups in the West Wing decide they don’t want to leave? And the issue is even more pressing with Donald Trump sneaking up in the polls – Nate Silver gives him a 34% chance of winning, which is up from the approximately 0% chance a whole bunch of people gave him a year ago, your author included. If a couple more disgruntled cop haters with totally obvious unknown motives and a few more [OMITTED] radicals go on kill sprees, Trump might well be our next president.
So, could Barack Obama pull off a coup to keep himself in power rather than turn over the keys to the Oval Office?
Of course not. At the outset, what makes you think he would suddenly become competent enough to pull off that kind of sophisticated scheme, especially with him leading from behind the wheel of the Ivy League clown car that is his administration? These twits can’t even beat a bunch of Bedouin banditos sitting out in the open in the middle of a desert. But it never pays to rely solely on the incompetence of your opponents, so let’s run through a scenario and see how it plays out.
Donald Trump gets elected, snatching Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Michigan from Hillary when the people liberals have spent the last half-century dumping on get mad and vote. Gracious as always, Trump’s victory speech promises that Attorney General Chris Christie’s first job will be to investigate and prosecute Pantsuit von Pervenabler and President Faily McWorsethanCarter.
That gets Obama’s attention faster than a delicious doggie at dinner time. His post-presidency plans involve sucking up the residual adulation of the idiots who love him; they don’t involve dodging subpoenas and maybe even indictments. Hillary, after she sobers up, calls him and shrieks that he has to do something. Obama quickly says, “Valerie, it’s for you” and hands over the phone, but it’s quite clear – this whole peaceful transition of power thing just can’t happen. Plus, he tells himself, the rule of law is racist anyway. And so the coup plotting begins.
Now, a coup is generally a small group of people quickly seizing power, often bloodlessly. This is in contrast to a civil war, which is usually neither quick nor bloodless. In the American system, it would likely mean one part of the government (here, the executive) moving to essentially unmoor itself from the checks and balances of the other branches. In other words, it would be Obama doing what he has tried to do for the last eight years, except with guns.
So, how does one pull off a coup in the United States? It’s actually harder than it appears. A coup by definition is covert – you have to try and keep the active force as small as possible to maintain secrecy yet still have enough assets to do the job. The problem for Obama is that a significant portion of the most important element, the military, has nothing but contempt for him.
That does not include the military’s senior leadership. The sorry spectacle of senior officers slavishly going along with troop-imperiling idiocy like transsexual integration instead of throwing their stars on the table and walking out is a disgrace. So a significant number of generals would be intimidated into doing whatever Obama asks – if they can’t tell him that “No, America’s greatest strategic challenge is not slightly warmer weather,” then they haven’t the intestinal fortitude to tell him “No, I’m not putting a mech battalion on Capitol Hill.”
The next challenge is to get the troops to actually do it. “Wait, colonel” says Captain Smith of Rapid City, South Dakota. “You want me to take my infantry company into Washington? And maybe shoot American citizens? Sir, did you start at the O club a little early today?”
Assume the good captain passes that manifestly unlawful order to his troops (My own captains would have assumed that I had stuck my head and politely dragged me away to get an MRI). So, then Sergeant First Class Jones and most of the rest of the company NCOs would report that some unexplained maintenance problem had rendered most of the unit’s vehicles deadlined. “Oh well, sir,” he’d say, shrugging. The military runs on NCO power; when they stop playing, you don’t have an army anymore. You have a bunch of government employees sitting around dressed like shrubs.
But assume the military does act. What’s it do? How about seize the prime media outlets? Well, there would be no need to seize many of them– the New York Times and the alphabet networks would cheerlead a coup. But the others? Which of the thousands of radio and TV stations would they grab? And how about the internet – where do the soldiers go to take over the internet? Mark Zuckerberg’s hacienda?
And there’s another problem – Texas, plus a bunch of other states with administrations that still have an affinity for that wacky old Constitution of ours. How do you imagine Governor Abbot reacting to Obama informing the nation that he thinks he’ll just stick around for a while, only without those meddling kids in Congress? Probably not so well. Governor Abbot has most of an infantry division that works for him. All the other loyal governors have forces too. And, it being their home, those local boys and girls will fight.
Speaking of fighting, that brings us to one more little obstacle in the road to Coupville. That’s us – the American people. It’s been Obama’s greatest disappointment that he has been unable to crush and humiliate the decent patriots of this country who keep and bear arms for the defense of themselves, their families, their community and – oh yeah – the Constitution. Disarming us isn’t just fun; it’s a strategic necessity for a coup to work.
But American patriots buy 60,000 firearms every single day. That’s four infantry divisions worth. The U.S. military has (very) roughly the equivalent of 25 active and reserve infantry and armored divisions. Their troops’ dubious loyalty to some usurper president aside, that means every week loyal Americans arm themselves in numbers in excess of the basic ground combat forces of the U.S. military.
This is not the place to dispel the tiresome assertions of some Twitter keyboard commandos who argue that small arms in the hands of the populace can’t effectively oppose a modern army. They would not be the guys who had to run resupply missions across a state like Pennsylvania that was filled with several million ticked off deer hunters packing 30-06s. But let me just share a few words with you on that subject: Vietnam. Iraq. Afghanistan.
So, in the end, Obama will leave in January, and good riddance. Wargaming the possibility of the elite trying to retain its grip on power is an amusing exercise, but in the end, it’s those damn bitter clingers who would once again mess up the liberals’ scheme. Of course, we know those bitter clingers as something else – patriots.
Which now will be needing a lot of rebuilding.
I doubt it. They will stand down.
We have a movement right now called the Trump Train.
He’s going to leave. Walk out or be carried. He’s leaving one way or the other.
BTTT
“Can you imagine what he would do if he were elected to lead the U.N.?”
He would have to renounce his US citizenship and be granted citizenship from a nation that was not a member of the UN security council for that to happen.
80 years, 3 days. I have a Mauser model 1916 short rifle that is unmarked, suggesting it was built during The Republic. I took it out to the range on Sunday. Still shoots straight but at $1.15 a pop it doesn't make it out much.
“So what if next January Obama and his barely post-puberty band of juice box screw-ups in the West Wing decide they don’t want to leave?”
Then the Secret Service will have to escort them from the premises, lol.
How can he renounce something he never had?
“then he’d claim that “the American people deserve better than a choice between two runners-up” and claim that we need a do-over on the primary season.”
It really doesn’t matter what he claims, he has almost zero power over the electoral process, which is run by the states. Only the Justice department can exert some influence, and only on states covered by provisions of the Voting Rights Act, and that needs to be done well prior to an election, not in the midst of one or afterwards. Obama simply has no legal recourse to suspend or set aside an election, so he can only do so illegally, as in a violent coup like the author discusses.
Well, Smith was court-martialed. It appears that 2,500 is likely the best number, and how many of those were combatants is unknown.
At least one major subordinate refused to carry out the order.
“The jury is out to the extent that order was carried out, because Littleton Waller actually countermanded it to his own men and said “Captain David Porter, I’ve had instructions to kill everyone over ten years old. But we are not making war on women and children, only on men capable of bearing arms. Keep that in mind no matter what other orders you receive.” Undoubtedly, some men did commit atrocities regardless of Waller’s commands.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_H._Smith
“I took it out to the range on Sunday. Still shoots straight but at $1.15 a pop it doesn’t make it out much.”
Reloading is a fun hobby. If you do not have the equipment yourself, save the brass. It could be reloaded for about 25 cents a round.
>>Obama simply has no legal recourse to suspend or set aside an election, so he can only do so illegally, as in a violent coup like the author discusses.
Who would stop him? Congress? The courts? Media? The people?
Who has stopped him so far?
“Legal” only matters when someone fights an action.
Nope. The USSS is an Executive Branch department [of the Treasury] and in the event of conflict of orders regarding Executive Branch protectees or the arrest of same, their orders are to allow those orders to be carried out by U.S. Marshals...who are NOT sworn to support/defend the Constitution, nor to obey Executive Branch orders...but to obey the orders of the Federal Judiciary.
“Nope. The USSS is an Executive Branch department...”
Sure, and on January 20th, they will be duty bound to obey the incoming executive, not the outgoing one.
The Hog of Steel!
WONDER WART-HOG would save the nation!
Yep. But Service policies and directives will still apply. And the last thing ANYBODY would want is one USSS detail getting in a shootout with another.
True!
Sure; that’s an issue with older guns. A friend had an old Spanish pistol for which it was difficult to find ammo.
Up until WWI or so it used to be the custom pof the Army that when an officer who had served in the hot spots of the Insurrecto would enter an officer's Mess, the senior man present would order: Rise, gentlemen. He served on Samar. One of those noting the custom was a young Lieutenant George Smith Patton, later Captain. Another was his commanding officer, General John J. Black Jack Pershing, who had himself served as a Captain and Major on Mindanao and Sulu against the Moros.
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