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Chicago police boss calls weekend gun violence 'completely unacceptable'
Chicago Tribune ^ | 5/9/2016 | Jeremy Gorner and Alexandra Chachkevitch

Posted on 05/10/2016 4:57:42 AM PDT by simpson96

Confronted with the bloodiest weekend in Chicago since being named police superintendent six weeks ago, Eddie Johnson on Monday called the gun violence "completely unacceptable" and said the dozens of shootings highlight "the uphill battle" confronting police.

More than 50 people were shot, eight fatally, between Friday afternoon and early Monday, the city's most violent weekend since the end of September, according to a Tribune analysis.

The tally included a 3 1/2-hour period early Saturday when one man was killed and 14 others were wounded — the equivalent of someone being shot every 14 minutes.

Chicago is already closing in on 200 homicides as the city endures its worst violence since the late 1990s. At this rate, the city is on pace to top 500 homicides for the year for only the second time since 2008.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: chicago; chicagomurder; chicagopolicechief; gangs
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To: T-Bone Texan; rlmorel; unread
"...your overarching goal is to disarm the law abiding white people. Is there anyone who does not see this dynamic? It's obvious..."

Nowhere in this article does anyone even suggest the problem is guns or gun owners or that there should be ANY type of regulation on any firearm.

This is NOT a 'grab-em" piece.

What is "obvious" here, is not attempted gun control.

61 posted on 05/10/2016 6:22:49 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: simpson96

35 victims is a lot more acceptable.


62 posted on 05/10/2016 6:24:41 AM PDT by anton
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To: simpson96

Detroit represents the future of most of the world’s cities.

With the automation of the Industrial Revolution, there is no requirement for a dense population of workers to live in close proximity to their workplace.

Cities are useful politically for maintaining a hive of compliant voters who will reliably support a political class that promises them (note that the political class does not have to reliably deliver) free stuff at the expense of the productive members of society.

The entire world is now catastrophically broke from government spending, deficits, and debt. Of the $1,400 Trillion that nominally represents the “wealth” of the world, more than $780 Trillion represents government debt backed derivatives and by design, you would be hard pressed to find the “original note” for most of them.

De facto, we have had a one world government of kleptocratic mediocrity since at least 1992. The problem is that John Maynard Keynes and Franklin Delano Roosevelt are both long dead, and the “long run” that Roosevelt warned Keynes about is now a clear and immediate danger.

The governments of the world will continue to create ones and zeros in their financial systems to continue to give stuff to their supporters, but the created money has become orders of magnitude less valuable and less effective.

Capital must be paid. Few of those who are in actual physical possession of the world’s raw materials and those people that turn them into finished goods actually live in cities. When they realize that the rapidly depreciating value of the currencies they are being paid in does not cover the real and exponentially growing risks and costs of bringing their products to market in cities, they will abandon the cities as markets.

The game is over. Elvis has left the building, and the house lights are coming back on. In the world’s cities, all hell is about to break loose.

Consider that there would be no immigration problem in Europe or the United States if the governments did not give the immigrants free stuff.

Governments will continue to legislate and regulate not realizing that they are pouring nitroglycerine on the fire of their own destruction. At some point, due to the increasing heat, a government will make a mistake and rather heavily handed drop the nitroglycerine causing a detonation rather than continued combustion.

Economists call that a “crash.”

The only way to avoid it would be for the citizens to cut the size of their governments at all levels to 25% of their current size and use the surplus tax revenues to pay off the government debt over the next four to five decades. That will never happen, and therefore Detroit is the future of every city.

The current “political class” will become extinct because they are unproductive and will be unable to provide for themselves.

A new political class will arise, usually a thugocracy based on those who are the strongest and most ruthless.

It is unlikely that any new political entity would have the benefit of the enlightened servant leadership demonstrated by our Founding Fathers in creating this Republic.


63 posted on 05/10/2016 6:38:49 AM PDT by Natty Bumppo@frontier.net (We are the dangerous ones, who stand between all we love and a more dangerous world.)
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To: simpson96
"Oftentimes, they have gang affiliations, and many have had previous arrests and convictions." He then ticked off nearly 10 examples of how many arrests these victims had on their records, ranging from 20 each all the way up to 41.

So the evidence in the story is that a bunch of habitual, violent, gang-affiliated criminals are running wild in the city, yet the editor spins the lead into a "gun violence" story, as if a bunch of church-goers found a stash of guns and suddenly started shooting people. As long as the press covers up the real issue -- the police not being able to effectively deal with gang members and habitual violent criminals -- things will never change.

64 posted on 05/10/2016 6:43:23 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: simpson96

There’s no Whitey to blame, so let it drop.


65 posted on 05/10/2016 6:51:26 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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To: skimbell

I would think that by calling violence by black street gangs “gun violence” that in itself suggests the solution is banning guns. Which, if I’m not mistaken, they pretty much are in Chicago anyway.

Not very long ago Rahm was blaming Indiana for Chicago’s “gun violence”.


66 posted on 05/10/2016 6:58:01 AM PDT by saleman
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To: billorites

great song!


67 posted on 05/10/2016 7:07:40 AM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: simpson96

Farm them out to the suburbs!


68 posted on 05/10/2016 7:09:25 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: hal ogen

If part of the problem is that the thugs aren’t being locked up for long enough then that’s not something he can fix. And most of the rest of the problem is politics, not enforcement.


69 posted on 05/10/2016 7:11:39 AM PDT by PLMerite (Compromise is Surrender: The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: USS Alaska

“I can not comprehend living any place where I could not carry.”

Concealed carry is legal in Chicago. I do it every time I go there.

Every single time.

L


70 posted on 05/10/2016 7:14:23 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net

A very cogent analysis.

L


71 posted on 05/10/2016 7:18:57 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Chode
what IS the acceptable number then???

Ha! Yeah, kinda begs the obvious question doesn't it?

72 posted on 05/10/2016 8:14:48 AM PDT by zeugma (Today is Setting Orange, the 57th day of Discord in the YOLD 3182)
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To: Lurker

I was curious, so I looked. Not that I’m planning on going to Chicago anytime soon. But, it’s supposedly a free country and our Constitution guarantees my right to keep and bear arms.

But unfortunately Illinois does not recognize my Alabama concealed permit. So, if I do decide to take in a Cubs game or something, what kind of hoops do I have to jump through to exercise my rights?


73 posted on 05/10/2016 8:23:23 AM PDT by saleman
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To: rjsimmon
Watcha gonna doaboutit?

More gun control!
Of course!

74 posted on 05/10/2016 8:24:18 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: skimbell; T-Bone Texan; unread

I think to anyone who has followed the news at all, especially as it relates to Democrat controlled cities, is that any violence or death is attributable to the “easy access to guns” and any other number of “root causes” except the most obvious ones: Liberal Democrat controlled cities with high numbers of fatherless minorities and high crime rates. A lot of people hate that truth, and it is important to note we live in times where one cannot speak the truth because others hate the truth.

This is Chicago.

Who runs the city? (Liberal Democrats)

Who is the mayor? (Rahm Emmanuel)

Who is the President of the United States? (Barack Obama)

Who do they both admire and emulate? (Saul Alinsky)

What is their party affiliation? (Democrat)

EVERY article covering this kind of thing, especially those emanating from Chicago, and especially those from any Chicago paper (Including the Tribune) are going to be used, without exception, and without qualification, as grist for a liberal mill that decries gun violence as a function of the availability of guns, NOT the criminals who actually carry out those crimes.

Doesn’t mean they shouldn’t report the crime. And I give small credit to the newspaper for actually writing three small paragraphs about the race aspect of the crimes, which lends discussion not to the races of both victims and perpetrators, but instead to how various races feel about the safety of their neighborhoods.

One would think that a statistic that says X % of the total murders and violent assaults in Chicago in 2016 were committed by RACE X, and Y % of the total victims of murders and violent assaults in Chicago in 2016 were suffered by RACE X, one would grasp immediately that the greatest threat to the lives of men, women, and children in a given community were posed by RACE X, not by the police, the fire department, any other race, or the Federal Government.

Actually, I take that back. The Federal Government might be the greatest threat to their well being.


75 posted on 05/10/2016 8:33:44 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Irrational violence against muslims" is a myth, but "Irrational violence against non-muslims" isn't)
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To: grobdriver
More gun control!
Of course!

Absolutely, 'cause that has worked so well, thus far...


76 posted on 05/10/2016 8:50:19 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: skimbell

I also want to stress that I didn’t have a problem with posting of the article by you. I have a problem with the way news and political entities pussyfoot around the real issues.

I saw some hand-wringing there, but there were also some tidbits about budgeting and the attitude of the Chief of Police that were interesting.


77 posted on 05/10/2016 9:47:04 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Irrational violence against muslims" is a myth, but "Irrational violence against non-muslims" isn't)
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To: saleman

You would need to apply for a Non-Resident CCL.

That would require 16 hours of classes, background check, fingerprints, and a fee to the State.

L


78 posted on 05/10/2016 9:56:31 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker

I would assume there is a charge for the classes? Background check too? Fingerprints also? Along with the State fee what would you estimate the total cost to be?

Also. How often would the permit be issued and do you have
to pay the State fee every time?


79 posted on 05/10/2016 10:20:19 AM PDT by saleman
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To: saleman

Yes, there is. I spent a total of $500.00 for mine, including fingerprinting by a third party. I don’t know what the non resident fees are. The whole process takes about 90 days and most of that is waiting on the State.

Permits are good for 5 years and I believe renewals are $100.

All completely outrageous, I agree.

L


80 posted on 05/10/2016 11:11:45 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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