Posted on 05/10/2016 3:53:44 AM PDT by marktwain
Police have long understood that violent criminals almost never use holsters. The obvious reason is that a gun is readily abandoned by tossing it from a car, in a dumpster, down a drain, or off a bridge. A holster, normally worn on a belt, is much harder to discard, and can result in embarrassing questions when found in a search. Having a holster on ones person when you are not allowed to carry or possess a firearm becomes rather problematic. Here is a comment from Landric at defensivecarry.com: There is no real firm answer, but in general, no street thugs dont tend to use holsters. The reasons are many, and the main ones are posted above. Ive come across people illegally possessing/carrying weapons in holsters, but they tended to be concealed in vehicles inside a holster (generally the holster the gun was in when it was stolen). Im working on year 13 as an LEO and Ive never charged illegal possession or CCW against someone who was actually wearing a handgun in a holster. and another: My experience mirrors Landrics. I can tell you that I have seen many shootings inside bars or other buildings begin with the words, (X)itch, go out the car and gimme my pistol
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I tell them, you see someone wearing a holstered weapon, you can ignore that person; they're a "good guy" - the criminals and people you need to be afraid of are NOT wearing holsters because they want to be able to ditch the weapon after use and appear to be unarmed.
Mostly, with the bedwetters, the argument doesn't sink in...
Holsters are an additional cost and are hard to come by on the streets for similar reasons outlined in the article. My Aker IWB cost me $80. I doubt any dope-slinging thug wants to cut into his profits when the throwaway gun on his person was likely sold out of the back of an Oldsmobile Cutlass for less than $50.
you see someone wearing a holstered weapon, you can ignore that person; they're a "good guy" - the criminals and people you need to be afraid of are NOT wearing holsters because they want to be able to ditch the weapon after use and appear to be unarmed.
I've seen many people (ordinary citizens) concealing and carrying (mostly with a holster) over the years in IN. It never phases me and I kind of enjoy noticing/observing it. Maybe it is the holster or the "more professional" way the weapon is carried/concealed that makes me comfortable.
Ironically, I normally carry in my front pocket (not holstered 80% of the time). It depends on what I am carrying, what I am wearing, what the weather is and where I might be going.
Re: wearing holsters
And this goes back to the 1800’s/early 1900’s concept that open carry was OK; the thought back then was that concealed carry was -not- OK.
Somewhere along the line, things got reversed....
But hopefully it will come back to that earlier idea.
Case in point, here in Texas after open carry got passed, lots of folks at the gun shows had open carry type holsters for sale.
And the “no carry” signs started popping up in store windows... Those are the ones that aren’t getting my business....
They don’t wear holsters so they can quickly be “unarmed” once the police shoot them dead for having shot at someone. This way, their families can have good cause to riot after the fact.
The girl who was at the station FREAKED when she saw my (empty) Ernie Hill Speed Leather rig! She asked me not to hurt her, and she'd give me all the money she had.
I explained that I had been shooting, and needed to get home in a hurry, and forgot to take off my holster, and even showed her it was emply, and offered to take it off while she got my change. Well, she had hit the panic button, and a cop pulled in and got out of the car while I was taking off my belt, and he pulled his gun on me. I explained that I had been shooting, and was in a hurry to get home, and that my pistols were locked up in my trunk, and that I was unarmed. After a quick look at what was going on, he told me I'd best not do that again (wear a fancy, metal cored belt with accessories?)
All in all, it was not a pleasant experience...
Mark
Since they revealed themselves to be anti-gun and anti-self defense I have not stepped foot inside an HEB and never will again.
Screw them.
It's all about Kroger now- They explicitly stated they will allow open carry in their stores.
I'm still trying to find one feels just right with my P229.
Let’s see now. Suppose a non-violent citizen has a holster on his person, and he goes to an airport, or within 500 feet of a school, both areas where reason has been abandoned and hysteria welcomed. Wanna bet that person gets his civil rights taken away in two seconds? Wanna bet he is declared guilty solely on the basis of the holster?
I’ll never need a holster. Too many precious neurotics out there hitting the alarm button over every little thing.
In cold weather a handwarming muff disturbs only the PETA freaks. Otherwise a handbag has to suffice.
The odds are against you on that bet. In most states, most of the time, it would not be a problem. In New York, New Jersey, Maryland, maybe California and Hawaii, I would not take the bet.
Interesting story. Could you give us some more details as to location? State? Rural/Urban.
I just open carried through AZ, NM, TX, OK, MO, IA, and WI, and did not have a problem.
If you recall, a bunch of 30.06 signs went up when CC was first passed in Texas. As time passed, most were slowly, and without fanfare removed. I suspect the same may happen with the 30.07 signs.
T bone Texan,
Thanks for that info!
Has anyone compiled a list of gun/open carry friendly and non gun/open carry friendly stores and businesses?
I know half price books ISNT.
HEB allows you to carry in their stores.
Although, it is a lot more fun to be outraged than reasonable.
That is bad info. HEB allows you to carry in their stores.
Unlike Kroger, HEB is pure Texan. Started in Kerrville, based in Corpus Christi.
I like working with leather. My neighbors saw one of the holsters I made, now I am making them for the whole freaking block! .....It keeps me busy.
Good luck with that in Central Texas. No others exist.
Ummm, open carry, no.
HEB released a statement after open carry was passed in TX that they do not want open carry in their store, and that they would be putting up signs to that effect.
On the other hand, Kroger released a statement saying that they would adhere to all state and local laws of the state of TX, which was an overt and tacit acknowledgement of open carry in their stores. Nowhere in their statement did they say say no to open carry.
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