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Internal Poll Numbers Show Cruz Collapsing In Indiana…
Conservative Treehouse ^ | April 28, 2016 | Sundance

Posted on 04/29/2016 11:43:13 AM PDT by COUNTrecount

From the outset, and particularly since the ridiculous “Never Trump” campaign began, we have outlined the most damaging aspect to Senator Ted Cruz’s presidential bid is his continued visibility. The reasoning is simple: the more people see and hear Cruz, the more the average electorate are turned off by Cruz. He’s just not a likeable man.

A CNN article today points out the internal polling within Indiana is following this consistent pattern:

Cruz allies and people close to the campaign describe a budding sense of gloom, with internal polls diving as Trump mounted even stronger than expected showings in his native northeast. In Indiana, which Cruz backers once believed they were favored to win after his strong defeat of Trump in Wisconsin, Cruz’s numbers have fallen precipitously: Once leading, Cruz now trails in the state by eight to 10 points, according to a person who has seen the numbers, with Trump over the 40% mark. Cruz’s campaign did not respond when asked about those figures.

Indiana is the absolute last chance for Senator Ted Cruz and the entire coalition behind the #NeverTrump movement. Like Florida in March, tens of millions are now being spent to psychologically target the larger electorate in Indiana with a constant barrage of negative attack ads.

Trump internals from Indiana as of today: Trump – 51% Cruz – 32% Kasich – 13%

— The Kincannon Show (@kincannon_show) April 28, 2016

Cruz Campaign Can’t Fill A Rally: An NBC news truck was parked outside of the center. There were also five marked police cars as well as a couple of fire department vehicles. There were some cars being used to block off a sidewalk on the side of the building, but other than that nothing else stood out

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Indiana; US: New York
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To: DiogenesLamp

DL, do you agree that prolific readers develop the ability to tap into the psychological bent of a person by reading the things they write? I do believe that because I find that I am able to get the “core” of a person by reading the things they have written (if indeed they have written anything).

For me beginning this election cycle began with a high opinion of Cruz due to his reported accomplishments and his filibuster against obamacare. So I bought his book, “A Time for Truth” (a telling title considering his current nickname). Reading his story about himself I found that he is self-consumed, a trait that is often attached more to Trump. His tome was boring to the point of tears. I gave up on page 205. I couldn’t read another report of how he “rescued” some very important person.

Then Trump came along with a book that he had recently written, “Crippled America”. So I bought it. I couldn’t put it down and there were very few first person sentences in that book. It is simply an outline of what is wrong with our country and what he proposes to do to fix it. He uses the word “We” a lot. I was hearing that Trump used to be a liberal Democrat, and I heard him talking about his best seller, “The Art of the Deal”, so I sent for that book too. He wrote it in 1987. Reading it you would think he wrote it last month. He does have a section about his early life, but strangely the focus was on what he did with his father, where he worked, etc. His later chapters cover his ability to get things done and how he used that ability to build his “business”. I don’t see a self-possessed person in his books. I see a man who loves his work and the country that provided him with the opportunity to accomplish his goals. Yes, he has a LOT of pride in his ability and he is prone to braggadocio, but not narcissistic. That is my take on both men who aspire to the presidency if it’s worth anything JMHO.


261 posted on 04/30/2016 9:28:34 AM PDT by WVNan
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To: mkjessup

You and Clint better take another look at that train wreak my FRiend. Clint’s right, we had it coming and that locomotive was coming straight for us. But when all seemed lost, a Friend pushed us off the track and He took the hit, got smashed (for us), and miraculously survived. That Friend’s name who himself took the hit that we had coming is Jesus Christ and we are now free.

Now there are some who groused and said, “Hey quit trying to push me off this track. I like this track.” Well, Jesus still took the hit for them also, but if they don’t accept Him and His sacrifice for us, then at some point, they will get hit by that train, but they don’t have to.


262 posted on 04/30/2016 9:38:32 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216
Jesus still took the hit for them also, but if they don’t accept Him and His sacrifice for us, then at some point, they will get hit by that train, but they don’t have to.

That is what I'm saying. We ALL deserve to get hit by the oncoming train of sin, disobedience and death (both physical and spiritual), and it WILL happen unless there is personal surrender, acknowledgement and confession of our sins, and asking Christ to save our miserable hides.

Too many people think it's automatic and that all they have to do is be a good person and 'everything will be ok' which is exactly what the Devil wants them to think.

You see Jim, we're on the same page.
263 posted on 04/30/2016 9:52:28 AM PDT by mkjessup (If you stand with Cruz, you stand with the GOPe, Jeb, Mitt, iSnarly, Reince & Karl. What's that say?)
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To: WVNan

A lot of folks including a lot of Freepers have been seduced by the debilitating fruit of the Tree of Politically Correctness and, thus, can’t tell the difference between pride and satisfaction in a job well done versus “narcissism”, similar to their inability to tell the difference between personal and economic self interest versus “greed.”

To the degree they align with this and other PC thinking, the Left’s got ‘em.

As much as anything else, I cheer for Trump because of his high degree of anti-PC.


264 posted on 04/30/2016 9:54:16 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: mkjessup
We're close but you still want to condemn those you think haven't measured up. Jesus never does that (John 3:17). Jesus died for the sins of the WHOLE WORLD (1 John 2:2). He doesn't count ANYONE'S sins against them.

God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them 2 Cor 5:19.

NOBODY gets what he deserves in this life. Jesus got it instead whether or not they have received him or measure up to what others think they should be or do. Jesus' death on the cross was a blank check to the whole world written and signed in His blood.

But although the sins of the world have been paid for, God doesn't force anyone to accept and write their name on the blank check. Salvation is a free gift but for anyone who dies refusing Him and His free gift, it is as though Jesus never died for them and they are lost eternally sadly and needlessly. But in this life, the grace and love of Christ is extended toward everyone in the whole world.

265 posted on 04/30/2016 10:28:18 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: bootless

Amen.


266 posted on 04/30/2016 10:30:03 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216
We're close but you still want to condemn those you think haven't measured up

I think a bit of context is needed here, you DO realize that in my post #60, I was referring to those who insisted on attacking Trump and being a detriment to the greater goal of stopping Hillary, as "deserving to be zotted", don't you? I wasn't speaking in terms of eternity and I'm not sure how someone could make such an assumption from that post.

NOBODY gets what he deserves in this life. Jesus got it instead whether or not they have received him or measure up to what others think they should be or do. Jesus' death on the cross was a blank check to the whole world written and signed in His blood.

"this life" is nothing more than the lobby for the "next life". And I think a creditable argument can be made that occasionally, some miscreants DO "get what they deserve" and rightly so. Take the infamous Subway spokesman Jared Fogle, he had every kind of success going for him, lots of money, but he blew it and now that he's in prison, I would say that "he got what was coming to him". Now on the eternal side of the coin, that has yet to be determined, that will depend on whether or not he has (or develops) a relationship with Jesus Christ and repents of his sins.

But although the sins of the world have been paid for, God doesn't force anyone to accept and write their name on the blank check. Salvation is a free gift but for anyone who dies refusing Him and His free gift, it is as though Jesus never died for them and they are lost eternally sadly and needlessly.

Again, we're on the same page as I see it.
267 posted on 04/30/2016 10:51:43 AM PDT by mkjessup (If you stand with Cruz, you stand with the GOPe, Jeb, Mitt, iSnarly, Reince & Karl. What's that say?)
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To: mkjessup

I think we’re pretty close, but I’ll stand by what I said, nobody gets what they deserve whether it’s being zotTED or busTED or anything else.


268 posted on 04/30/2016 10:59:55 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: CAluvdubya

And Andrew Basiago as head of NASA, who will go to any time to talk to voters and cajole delegates.


269 posted on 04/30/2016 11:01:55 AM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: VictoryGal
I hear what you are saying. And having been betrayed in the past by noodleback politicians in the GOP, I keep a keen eye on ANY candidate calling himself “conservative”. I think if Trump wins he will feel like he owes a lot to the people that brought him to that point. I hope that is true, because if it isn’t, he’ll find out very quickly that those who raised him up can bring him down, so fast his head will spin.

I hope he does govern conservatively, but I am wary. Been disappointed so many times that I just don't trust anyone who isn't a fire-breathing extremist conservative.

They all govern moderate-left. They never roll back anything or oppose anything that is the status quo.

What do you think?

As for taking him down if he goes off the reservation? Won't happen. If he doesn't govern conservatively, there is nothing at all we will be able to do about it.

Let us just hope this does not turn out to be some sort of "bait and switch" like we've seen so many times in the past.

But don't worry. If Trump turns out to be our nominee, (as appears more and more likely) i'll support him completely against Wack-Job Hillary.

270 posted on 04/30/2016 11:33:55 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: WVNan
DL, do you agree that prolific readers develop the ability to tap into the psychological bent of a person by reading the things they write?

I don't really know, but i'll admit that you likely gain some insight on the writer.

For me beginning this election cycle began with a high opinion of Cruz due to his reported accomplishments and his filibuster against obamacare. So I bought his book, “A Time for Truth” (a telling title considering his current nickname).

Same here, except I haven't even started reading it. I assumed it would be a series of logical arguments regarding why we need to do this or that, but I have long since been convinced of what needs to be done, and I no longer feel the need to be persuaded on direction.

As for his "nickname" that Trump tagged him with, I reject the premise until evidence of it is produced. So far I haven't seen any I regard as reasonable.

Reading his story about himself I found that he is self-consumed, a trait that is often attached more to Trump. His tome was boring to the point of tears. I gave up on page 205. I couldn’t read another report of how he “rescued” some very important person.

Some people can write, and some people can't. It's a gift. Apparently Ted doesn't have it.

Then Trump came along with a book that he had recently written, “Crippled America”. So I bought it. I couldn’t put it down and there were very few first person sentences in that book. It is simply an outline of what is wrong with our country and what he proposes to do to fix it. He uses the word “We” a lot. I was hearing that Trump used to be a liberal Democrat, and I heard him talking about his best seller, “The Art of the Deal”, so I sent for that book too. He wrote it in 1987. Reading it you would think he wrote it last month. He does have a section about his early life, but strangely the focus was on what he did with his father, where he worked, etc. His later chapters cover his ability to get things done and how he used that ability to build his “business”.

And apparently Trump can. Are we certain he wrote it himself? A lot of people don't.

I don’t see a self-possessed person in his books. I see a man who loves his work and the country that provided him with the opportunity to accomplish his goals. Yes, he has a LOT of pride in his ability and he is prone to braggadocio, but not narcissistic. That is my take on both men who aspire to the presidency if it’s worth anything JMHO.

There are a lot of things I like about Donald Trump. He may be exactly what he is presenting himself as currently. But as i've noticed with others, they get in office claiming they will behave one way, and then the next thing you know they are going along with the Democrats.

Trump is obviously a more likeable person than is Cruz. Apparently most people haven't liked Cruz since at least college where he was very unpopular.

But something i've noticed over my years of life is that when you are standing up for something, you tend to be unpopular. Nobody likes a party pooper.

I empathize with this position because I have "been there" so many times in my own life.

The nation has gotten itself into a lot of trouble by continuously electing "likable" guys like Clinton and Obama. Yeah people liked them, but the direction they wanted to take us was always the wrong direction. I am reminded of what P.J. Rourke said about the difference between Republicans And Democrats.

I have only one firm belief about the American political system, and that is this: God is a Republican and Santa Claus is a Democrat.

God is an elderly or, at any rate, middle aged male, a stern fellow, patriarchal rather than paternal and a great believer in rules and regulations. He holds men accountable for their actions. He has little apparent concern for the material well being of the disadvantaged. He is politically connected, socially powerful and holds the mortgage on literally everything in the world. God is difficult. God is unsentimental. It is very hard to get into God's heavenly country club.

Santa Claus is another matter. He's cute. He's nonthreatening. He's always cheerful. And he loves animals. He may know who's been naughty and who's been nice, but he never does anything about it. He gives everyone everything they want without the thought of quid pro quo. He works hard for charities, and he's famously generous to the poor. Santa Claus is preferable to God in every way but one: There is no such thing as Santa Claus.

It looks like Trump is going to win, and I just hope he isn't too worried about being popular with all the wrong people.

271 posted on 04/30/2016 11:33:56 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: XEHRpa
I have no illusions that Trump is an ideological conservative. But at this time, I still support him 100%. There is a major national realignment happening. The labels liberal and conservative are taking on less meaning, while nationalist vs. globalist is dominating the debate.

Now this I regard as an entirely rational approach. The Consolation prize with Trump is that he will address some of the *MOST* important issues, even though he will probably make a mess of the lesser issues.

Yes, we need pushback against the globalist efforts. Yes, we need more nationalism, and I hope Trump will move in this direction.

Trump is the only nationalist in the mix, and the consensus among many conservatives (at least on this site) is that if the borders and immigration and trade can’t be fixed, then all is lost.

I do not believe that Cruz is a globalists. I've seen people accusing him of that, i've seen people making an issue out of his wife working for Goldman Sachs, but I haven't seen anything that I regard as reasonable proof that he is in favor of Globalism rather than Nationalism.

But I agree with you that we *MUST* get control of our borders and we *MUST* stop allowing International corporations to have so much influence on our society and public policy.

Do I expect Trump to be a small government conservative? Absolutely not...

Nor do I, and I regard that as a pretty serious problem.

but then again, I don’t trust Cruz in that regard as far as I can spit after his mask came off in recent months.

I see a lot of allegations repeated over and over and over again. I am not persuaded by "argumentum ad populum". When I have made efforts to examine the facts on various accusations, it has invariably turned out that the people making the accusations were the ones doing the misleading.

I remember seeing one video that someone posted about Cruz's "Lies." The first "Lie" was how Cruz said John Roberts would make a great Supreme Court Justice.

I pointed out to the person who posted it that we all thought John Roberts would make a great Supreme Court Justice, and Cruz no more "lied" about this than any of us. We were just all mistaken.

Making a mistake is not a "lie", and it is a Lie to portray such a mistake as a lie.

There has been too many false accusations and rumor mongering in this campaign. I thought our side was more reasonable and decent than the Democrats, yet I saw many people repeating the most vicious accusations against both Cruz and Trump.

This "mob" mentality is ugly, and I had thought we were better than this.

272 posted on 04/30/2016 11:37:27 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: dynachrome; DiogenesLamp

That’s not a link from CTH, which is what the original poster asserted.


273 posted on 04/30/2016 11:41:26 AM PDT by LNV (Nov. 2016-Trump the B!tch!)
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To: stratboy
Put aside the fact that he is a thorn in Cruz’s side. Where has he been wrong? Specific examples please.

I quit reading his stuff about a month ago. Back then I read some of his stuff and realized that it was hysterical nonsense, and so I quit reading him until after the primary. Life is too short to bother with people that are acting cray-cray.

A month ago I could have given you a specific example. Now I don't even remember which article I thought was over the top crazy.

It's not worth my trouble to go back and reread any of it to find you an example.

274 posted on 04/30/2016 11:49:06 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: LNV
That’s not a link from CTH, which is what the original poster asserted.

That's what you read into what I said. What I said was I've seen post after post here at Free Republic purporting to be from "Sundance" which all sum up to "TED CRUZ IS SATAN INCARNATE!!!!!

Now I did not literally mean that Sundance said that. I said his statements "SUM UP TO" that position.

Another way of putting it is that he was spewing a constant stream of Demonetization directed at Ted Cruz. I never really expected anyone to believe I was saying that Sundance literally said that. As far as I know, he never said those words, but the words he did say pretty much arrive at that conclusion.

And it is kooky nonsense.

275 posted on 04/30/2016 11:55:11 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: COUNTrecount

276 posted on 04/30/2016 12:47:10 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: All

nobody is protesting cruz’s appearance at cagop.


277 posted on 04/30/2016 1:01:56 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: John W

The distrust for Cruz has been well earned. Here’s one reason of many.

By intentionally suspending your beliefs, you can ignore the truth of how Senator Cruz created, supported, and advocated for Trade Promotion Authority (TPA). An advocate cannot claim a position fundamentally disconnected from reality without intentionally desiring to do so.

This is an insightful key point into the deep dishonesty of Ted Cruz. Cruz says he has always been against Obamatrade yet he campaigned to enable it with TPA. Those actions are incompatible. Only a slick lawyer career politican would try that type of flim flam. TPA is where he lost most of his original support who have a conscious and a strong mind.


278 posted on 04/30/2016 5:54:59 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: John W

Many distrust his religion and his father proselytizing that faith.

DOMINION THEOLOGY IS A BID FOR WORLDLY POWER.

Simply stated, Dominion Theology is not Biblical. It is not a doctrinal belief that emerges from a careful study of the Holy Scriptures. Typically it emerges in the heady milieu of a wave of success in a nation’s economic, political, and military successes. Religious enterprises soon follow this. So in this sense Dominionism is really a form of religious populism or religious nationalism.

Dominion Theology was showcased in the history of the former British Empire. It rose up in the Edwardian period during those heady early years of the 20th century. We shall be looking at the British experience with Dominion Theology further down in this article.

National pride and hubris is a great spiritual danger. The temptation is to assume power and authority over others instead of being a servant before God. This is inclined to happen when a nation comes into great blessings. The prophets of Israel warned God’s covenant people about this danger. Indeed this theme of corruption right in the midst of God’s blessings is a theme that recurs throughout the Old Testament.


279 posted on 04/30/2016 6:02:48 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Brown Deer

Huuuuge!!!!


280 posted on 04/30/2016 6:17:27 PM PDT by COUNTrecount (Race Baiting...... "It's What's For Breakfast")
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