Posted on 04/27/2016 10:27:56 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright
I have a message for all the Trumpsters. Your behavior and antics in the past couple of months, and the antics of your "savior", The Donald, have made my decision about who to vote for, and who NOT to vote for in November easy.
If your guy is the nominee for the Republican Party, he WILL lose in November, and YOU WILL OWN IT. Because I will NEVER vote for that statist socialist, parasitic, steaming pile of obama.
Now, I've been told that JimRob is banning anyone who states publicly that they will not vote for trump. So be it. I have enjoyed Jim's friendship for many years, and I'll be sorry to lose it, but I WILL NOT surrender my principles that easily. Herewith is an article by Herschel Smith, that encapsulates my thoughts.
I have said for a very long time to my family and others that the experience of parents having and raising children isn’t really about the children. God will handle the children as He sees fit. It’s about the parents, and there are two experiences that test your mettle more than any other: marriage and children. It’s one of God’s way of sanctifying His own, but it has the opposite affect on others.
One reason I care about the election cycle isn’t because I think we can make a difference. Oh, we can in some ways, we can’t in others. We can make a difference in the medical care situation in the country, but we can’t in the global financial system. This discussion is saved for another time. But one thing the individual vote does at one and the same time is affect the soul and show the content of the soul of the voter. It’s a deeply moral act that has eternal consequences for the one who is given stewardship of the vote.
Now let me turn for a moment to a recent commentary by Jonah Goldberg. Sometimes I disagree vehemently with him, but other times he hits on all cylinders. This day the engine was running to perfection on the dynamometer.
This week there have been some cracks in the façade. Trump’s attacks on Heidi Cruz unsettled even Ann Coulter. And his abortion remarks are still sending tremors through the granite foundations of Trump can-do-no-wrong-ism. Joe Scarborough and Breitbart’s John Nolte are talking about what a bad week he’s having and gravely warning Trump to get his act together. As Jim Geraghty has been writing, the problem with such second thoughts is the assumption that something is amiss with Trump or his campaign. This is Trump. This is his campaign. The Trump we see before us is the same Trump. It’s a bit like when Barack Obama said that the Jeremiah Wright he saw denouncing America wasn’t the man he knew. That was nonsense. Obama knew exactly who Wright was, having attended his church for 20 years. It was only when Wright’s act moved to a larger national stage that all of a sudden he became inconvenient to Obama.
The analogy isn’t perfect, of course. But the basic point is the same. The Donald Trump of the last week is the exact same Donald Trump many of us saw a year ago or five years ago. He’s always been full of sh*t. He’s always been a total ignoramus when it comes to public policy, lacking the simple sense of patriotic duty to do his homework on the issues. He’s always been a nasty and boorish cad. He’s always pretended to be a conservative while working on liberal assumptions of what conservatives want to hear.
His “punish the women” comments were of a piece with his refusal to condemn the Klan on CNN. It’s not that he wants to punish women who have abortions — I’d bet he’s paid more abortion bills than he will ever sign — it’s that he thinks that’s what pro-lifers want to hear. It’s not that he’s a Klansman or that the pillowcases at Mara Lago come with eyeholes cut out in advance. It’s that Trump thinks lots of his fans like the Klan and he wants to pander to them. I have heard first-hand stories from people who’ve worked with Trump about how he disparages women’s appearance routinely. That’s who he is. If you’re attacking him because he retweeted a bad picture of Heidi, that’s not you being principled, it’s you getting cold feet. Indeed, I am sure that the same opportunism that has caused so many supposedly principled conservatives to hitch their wagons to Trump is now causing some of them to question their choices, not because Trump has changed but because the climate might be changing around them. By all means, if Trump continues to unravel (a huge if), please abandon Trump. But don’t think for a moment that the rest of us will automatically take your word for it when you say this or that statement changed your mind about the man. He hasn’t changed, your calculations have.
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Like all demagogues, he’s using his lies as a loyalty test for his followers. He’s exploiting his popularity and abusing the devotion of his fans to force them into going along with his fictions, until they are in so deep psychologically, they have no choice but to carry on. It’s an ancient psychological tactic of authoritarians, Mafia dons, and the like: Force your followers into sharing the blame for your misdeeds so that they can’t break ranks.
Jonah is right. He thinks we want to see women who have gotten abortions in the town center in stocks and chains. He’s pandering to the social right, but he missed on this, and he missed badly. His other positions – support for the second amendment, advocacy for closed borders – can only be assumed to be pandering as well.
Not to worry, though. Just about as soon as he said it, he triangulated his position again, to something like abortion laws are already set and we have to leave it that way. Trumps views on abortion aren’t the topic here. Trump is the topic. He is a mirror in which everyone sees what he or she wants to see, its just that the mirror has to be adjusted based on the onlooker and Trump isn’t really as good a triangulator as he is made out to be.
And that brings me to the conservative voters who have already cast their votes for Trump in the primaries heretofore. Do you remember when socialized medicine was the most important thing about the Obama administration, the holy grail of the progressives? It still is.
And yet, you have jettisoned that most important piece of your world view to support a man who sees things far differently than you, who supports socialized medicine, and who has said that the only thing he would change about the current system is to allow it to cross state lines.
Trump has woven you into his deception, his lies, his evil. And when socialized medicine is codified and solidified for you, your children, and your children’s children to the tenth generation of your progeny, when you see that your seed will hate you and this generation for what has been done to the country, it will be far too late.
Open wide, and suck it down. This is what you voted for, whether in the end it’s Hillary or Trump, or some replacement for Hillary. Own it. It’s yours. The Mafia don asked you to pull the trigger and do the deed. It’s no longer about him. Now it’s about you.
I hate to break this to you, but Cruz can’t win a general election, on his best day. Being the “most conservative” is not a claim that wins you a national election. It may win you a conservative district or a conservative state, but it won’t win you a national election... not in and of itself.
Wake up, the Republican party, with the sole exception of a sitting war time president, and even then couldn’t win by 2.5% of the vote, has not won the popular vote for president in 28 years. And in every single one of those elections, the Republican was the most conservative candidate on the ballot. Yes, they may not been as conservative as most folks here would like but given the choice on election day they were always the more conservative option, and guess what? They lost.
This idea that the “most conservative” guy can win a national election, with that being their sole credential is idiotic. Yes, Reagan was conservative, but he also had presence, character, charm and wit.. He didn’t run around in 1980 or 1984 saying “I’m the most conservative guy”.... If that’s all you got as your argument you lose a national election.
Cruz cant win in the primary, among republican, and yes even among self identified conservative voters, Cruz can’t win. Cruz backers laid that whole idiotic argument that Trump can only win open primaries... Yet he just took 6 primaries by about 60% all in closed primary states, and states that represent 25% of the US population.
Cruz can’t win a general election, and never could. Hate to be the bearer of that reality to you, but that’s the stone cold truth. Cruz in a general is basically another Rovesque type of election where a handful of states are declared the battleground and each side prays they have the better GOTV.... that’s not how you grow and build a party and it sure isn’t any way to work for a win. That model concedes your weakness out of the gate and if thats the best a candidate has to try to win, they are a pathetically weak candidate.
Duh.
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The duh is what’s going on between your ears. Get a freakin’ life.
I have been on FR since 2007 and am a Trump supporter. What you are conveniently forgetting is that a lot of this anger and “language” started with the Cruz supporters. At first, I tried to engage them on an intellectual level, only to be referred to as a “cultist”, “trumptard”, “trumpanzee”, etc. I soon found out that there is no realistic way to have a substantive discussion with a large majority of them. You wonder why FR Trump supporters are this way? Look no further to a large majority of FR Cruz supporters.
jp, Rick Wilson was never on Cruz’ team. He’s in his own universe. He’s GOPe to the max. But nice try.
Trump has made securing the border and repatriating illegals the center piece of his campaign. If elected he will have a mandate to do just that. I am not at all worried that a president Trump would not secure the border (build the wall where appropriate) and enforce existing immigration law (deport). In fact he is the only candidate, IMHO, who would do both.
Bite me.
Yeah, it wasn’t a Cruz supporter who threatened to kill my dogs.
Thank you so much for posting that.
That’s what he says today, but not so long ago, self-deportation was too mean.
He changes his stance on abortion and healthcare from one day to the next and you think he’s not going to change at all on this?
Not all are Cruzers but a lot of them are. I only posted that to demonstrate that we Trumpers take way more and way nastier incoming then Cruz supporters.
You are pure, unadulterated evil. Satan calls you his friend. Your stench of malignance is breath-stealing and when you are photographed, a demon appears in the frame. You eat small children, cannibalistically, and you have no redeeming features. I am ashamed you were ever a member of the forum. Nothing you say is true, ever, and yet you manage to write it with triteness and a certain jejune character. Now that you are gone, we can all celebrate, with gusto, for now we are whole and complete.
Yes it was!
At the time, I supported Cruz!
I'd surrender my principles to get a free Snickers bar.
#Nevertrump = Hillary Clinton.
Well he is the only one that might (secure border, deport) so I am willing to take the chance.
YW
You’ve been here a long, long time, since 1997 — a year longer than me.
Hope you don’t get banned for your post ... but Jim has clearly said that trashing Trump and saying you won’t vote for him will get you banned.
FWIW, I’m looking forward to FR *after* the election is behind us. It should become a much more genial place, like it used to be before this election cycle’s primaries.
That wasn’t a Baby Ruth floating in the pool...
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