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{vanity} For all the Trumpsters
self (vanity) | 04/27/16 | Neil E. Wright

Posted on 04/27/2016 10:27:56 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright

I have a message for all the Trumpsters. Your behavior and antics in the past couple of months, and the antics of your "savior", The Donald, have made my decision about who to vote for, and who NOT to vote for in November easy.

If your guy is the nominee for the Republican Party, he WILL lose in November, and YOU WILL OWN IT. Because I will NEVER vote for that statist socialist, parasitic, steaming pile of obama.

Now, I've been told that JimRob is banning anyone who states publicly that they will not vote for trump. So be it. I have enjoyed Jim's friendship for many years, and I'll be sorry to lose it, but I WILL NOT surrender my principles that easily. Herewith is an article by Herschel Smith, that encapsulates my thoughts.

Trump’s Lies And Triangulation

I have said for a very long time to my family and others that the experience of parents having and raising children isn’t really about the children.  God will handle the children as He sees fit.  It’s about the parents, and there are two experiences that test your mettle more than any other: marriage and children.  It’s one of God’s way of sanctifying His own, but it has the opposite affect on others.

One reason I care about the election cycle isn’t because I think we can make a difference.  Oh, we can in some ways, we can’t in others.  We can make a difference in the medical care situation in the country, but we can’t in the global financial system.  This discussion is saved for another time.  But one thing the individual vote does at one and the same time is affect the soul and show the content of the soul of the voter.  It’s a deeply moral act that has eternal consequences for the one who is given stewardship of the vote.

Now let me turn for a moment to a recent commentary by Jonah Goldberg.  Sometimes I disagree vehemently with him, but other times he hits on all cylinders.  This day the engine was running to perfection on the dynamometer.

This week there have been some cracks in the façade. Trump’s attacks on Heidi Cruz unsettled even Ann Coulter. And his abortion remarks are still sending tremors through the granite foundations of Trump can-do-no-wrong-ism. Joe Scarborough and Breitbart’s John Nolte are talking about what a bad week he’s having and gravely warning Trump to get his act together. As Jim Geraghty has been writing, the problem with such second thoughts is the assumption that something is amiss with Trump or his campaign. This is Trump. This is his campaign. The Trump we see before us is the same Trump. It’s a bit like when Barack Obama said that the Jeremiah Wright he saw denouncing America wasn’t the man he knew. That was nonsense. Obama knew exactly who Wright was, having attended his church for 20 years. It was only when Wright’s act moved to a larger national stage that all of a sudden he became inconvenient to Obama.

The analogy isn’t perfect, of course. But the basic point is the same. The Donald Trump of the last week is the exact same Donald Trump many of us saw a year ago or five years ago. He’s always been full of sh*t. He’s always been a total ignoramus when it comes to public policy, lacking the simple sense of patriotic duty to do his homework on the issues. He’s always been a nasty and boorish cad. He’s always pretended to be a conservative while working on liberal assumptions of what conservatives want to hear.

His “punish the women” comments were of a piece with his refusal to condemn the Klan on CNN. It’s not that he wants to punish women who have abortions — I’d bet he’s paid more abortion bills than he will ever sign — it’s that he thinks that’s what pro-lifers want to hear. It’s not that he’s a Klansman or that the pillowcases at Mara Lago come with eyeholes cut out in advance. It’s that Trump thinks lots of his fans like the Klan and he wants to pander to them. I have heard first-hand stories from people who’ve worked with Trump about how he disparages women’s appearance routinely. That’s who he is. If you’re attacking him because he retweeted a bad picture of Heidi, that’s not you being principled, it’s you getting cold feet. Indeed, I am sure that the same opportunism that has caused so many supposedly principled conservatives to hitch their wagons to Trump is now causing some of them to question their choices, not because Trump has changed but because the climate might be changing around them. By all means, if Trump continues to unravel (a huge if), please abandon Trump. But don’t think for a moment that the rest of us will automatically take your word for it when you say this or that statement changed your mind about the man. He hasn’t changed, your calculations have.

[ … ]

Like all demagogues, he’s using his lies as a loyalty test for his followers. He’s exploiting his popularity and abusing the devotion of his fans to force them into going along with his fictions, until they are in so deep psychologically, they have no choice but to carry on. It’s an ancient psychological tactic of authoritarians, Mafia dons, and the like: Force your followers into sharing the blame for your misdeeds so that they can’t break ranks.

Jonah is right.  He thinks we want to see women who have gotten abortions in the town center in stocks and chains.  He’s pandering to the social right, but he missed on this, and he missed badly.  His other positions – support for the second amendment, advocacy for closed borders – can only be assumed to be pandering as well.

Not to worry, though.  Just about as soon as he said it, he triangulated his position again, to something like abortion laws are already set and we have to leave it that way.  Trumps views on abortion aren’t the topic here.  Trump is the topic.  He is a mirror in which everyone sees what he or she wants to see, its just that the mirror has to be adjusted based on the onlooker and Trump isn’t really as good a triangulator as he is made out to be.

And that brings me to the conservative voters who have already cast their votes for Trump in the primaries heretofore.  Do you remember when socialized medicine was the most important thing about the Obama administration, the holy grail of the progressives?  It still is.

And yet, you have jettisoned that most important piece of your world view to support a man who sees things far differently than you, who supports socialized medicine, and who has said that the only thing he would change about the current system is to allow it to cross state lines.

Trump has woven you into his deception, his lies, his evil.  And when socialized medicine is codified and solidified for you, your children, and your children’s children to the tenth generation of your progeny, when you see that your seed will hate you and this generation for what has been done to the country, it will be far too late.

Open wide, and suck it down.  This is what you voted for, whether in the end it’s Hillary or Trump, or some replacement for Hillary.  Own it.  It’s yours.  The Mafia don asked you to pull the trigger and do the deed.  It’s no longer about him.  Now it’s about you.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 2016carlycruzlol; adiosmofo; election; goawayalreadypunk; opus; primaries; sorecruzerloser; takeballgohome; tempertantrum; trump; trumpsters; vanity
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To: sargon
"All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing delay in hanging the bad guys.."
Hey I think I fixed it!

William Kristol should be hung in effigy BEFORE the election.

281 posted on 04/28/2016 2:25:51 AM PDT by MIA_eccl1212 (10 rounds 10 meters 10 seconds 10 centimetres)
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To: Vision Thing
Sorry,,,,I can't see anything I said..that would lead you to believe anything you said.

Frankly...what you said has no basis in truth.

Want to try again...?

282 posted on 04/28/2016 2:28:08 AM PDT by Osage Orange (The GOPe.....are actually worse than the Dim's)
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To: onyx; nopardons
Probably because there's that one last closeup waiting to be shot.


283 posted on 04/28/2016 2:38:35 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Neil E. Wright

Bmk


284 posted on 04/28/2016 2:39:03 AM PDT by Popman
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To: Neil E. Wright

Beginning your opus with an insult...real class.

But at least you didn’t damn everybody who doesn’t agree with you to an eternity of torment in Hell, as did one of your fellow travelers.

I posted this early on in this battle, and I will repeat it now:

“If the Cruz supporters at Free Republic convinced every Trump supporter to support Cruz, or if the Trump supporters at Free Republic convinced every Cruz supporter to support Trump, the outcome of the election would be exactly the same.”

I’m sorry that so many people like yourself (and by that I mean both Trump AND Cruz people) can’t see this, but it’s true.

I’m sorry that so many people like yourself have wrapped themselves in so much anger that they lose sight of reality.

I’m sorry that so many people like yourself find it so easy to rail at others for their failure to “see the light”.

So, take your football and go off to some other site where you can regale each other to your hearts content with stories of how rotten FR is, and how wonderful the world would have been if Cruz had become president.

But you know what?

Sooner or later, the same fighting is going on here will break out there, and it will be worse.


285 posted on 04/28/2016 2:39:39 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hey now baby, get into my big black car, I just want to show you what my politics are.)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie

Think of the other guy who who uses personal pronouns hundreds of times in short speeches — Obama. Embarrassing as it should be to sound like Obama, there are a lots of people willing to sell out and call establishment tactics “conservative” since Cruz joined the Bushes. Go Trump!


286 posted on 04/28/2016 2:40:08 AM PDT by nclaurel
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To: Madame Dufarge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2gJiBcWk2U


287 posted on 04/28/2016 2:42:17 AM PDT by Osage Orange (The GOPe.....are actually worse than the Dim's)
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To: Neil E. Wright

I never asked for your friendship and after your childish rant nor do I want it!

Good thing you expose yourself in a drunken stupor which you will regret tomorrow.


288 posted on 04/28/2016 2:46:46 AM PDT by Randy Larsen (Aim small, Miss small.)
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To: onyx; Jim Robinson

Let’s make it 28 as I just signed up as monthly instead of occasional.


289 posted on 04/28/2016 2:56:24 AM PDT by nclaurel
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To: Neil E. Wright

I gave this an honest read.

If there’s anything in it which isn’t either mere sour grapes or flat-out wrong, I missed it.

The most benefit one could get from this post is to better understand the mentality which has delivered us loss after loss after loss in contests we should have won: “By golly, if I don’t get catered to on all my hot-button issues, even though getting catered to hasn’t actually helped make progress on any of them, I’d rather watch the world burn!”

The GOP will be a more effective conservative party without those elements which insist it’s their way or the highway.

You can have your laundry list of demands, or you can be part of a political coalition that could actually succeed, but you can’t have both.


290 posted on 04/28/2016 2:58:02 AM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: Neil E. Wright

It’s difficult to like Cruz these days, he falls way short of the presented conservative facade. However, I am sorry to see someone who was once respected, self-destruct on the national stage before his family, supporters, and Texas. Ted seemingly has no awareness of how he is being perceived. Most thought he would not choose Fiorina because she is a terrible choice for many reasons and that her presence would not boost his campaign in the slightest. It makes him appear desperate to have done this. To announce his choice now — to try to get more delegates— seems so lame, especially when neither one of them is very popular.

One must wonder if Cruz’s belief in his own “anointing” plays a role with this decision. We suppose that Ted thinks he is carrying out God’s will. Even though he has no path to victory by voting in the final ten states, Cruz somehow believes he emerges victorious. Ted must feel driven to reverse the will of ten million voters and 28 states and 1,000 delegates. He perceives the will of God as him conquering against great odds in a victorious fight to lead the republican party. All the while, ignoring the constitution that will eliminate him for the office of the presidency.

It’s understandable to realize that Ted wants the presidency. However, it is incomprehensible to watch him sabotaging his reputation, public trust, career, and dignity in the process. Something is wrong with his struggle to win. Something is wrong with Ted. He has not behaved like a man of conservative principles, not at all. He has been corrupted by DC and globalist overseers, but kept it hidden. Ted is a gross disappointment and an embarrassment that marginalizes the conservative wing of the republican party.


291 posted on 04/28/2016 2:59:03 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Osage Orange

Trump is an all-upside gamble.

If he’s totally lying about everything and is just another NWO usher, we’re in the same exact position we would be in without him, and a hundred million more people will know that the political system in this country is not legitimate.


292 posted on 04/28/2016 3:03:26 AM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: Mr. Mojo; P-Marlowe
Check out Marina watch the entire thing as she gets hotter and hotter.
294 posted on 04/28/2016 3:11:18 AM PDT by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: Mr. Mojo; P-Marlowe
Check out Marina watch the entire thing as she gets hotter and hotter.
295 posted on 04/28/2016 3:14:01 AM PDT by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: Neil E. Wright

Most of us voting for Trump are principled conservatives. America is practically lost. This is the one election that has to be about America and its citizens first. Trump is not a pure 100 percent conservative, but he’s hitting on the most important issues. How’s that republican congress working out for you? Hes a fighter and right now we need someone to fight for America for a change. That’s what the people want.


296 posted on 04/28/2016 3:20:28 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: sockmonkey

Your sentence lacks a subject, which if it had been there would have been a personal pronoun.


297 posted on 04/28/2016 3:21:47 AM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors)
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To: sargon

I started seeing the dark side of my Senator when he wanted to punish Egypt for over throwing its Muslim Brotherhood government. WTF I thought to myself, either Cruz is stupid or he willing play politics with peoples lives. I now see him as a complete fraud. He will face a primary opponent in 2018.


298 posted on 04/28/2016 3:22:23 AM PDT by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: Neil E. Wright

David Duke stated he never “endorsed Trump”. Since he doesn’t hold any office now, that would be ludicrous anyway. The rest of your rants are general in nature without any specificity.


299 posted on 04/28/2016 3:22:53 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Neil E. Wright

Your emotional state is clouding your objectivity. Jonah & you are both deluding yourself or spinning three day old media lies. This article is a rehash of Ted Cruz’s lies about Trump’s positions.
Read Trump’s position statements on his website or the compilation from 20 years at “On The Issues”. Stop spreading the lies that are meant to elect Hillary. Grow a pair & come into the light.


300 posted on 04/28/2016 3:28:02 AM PDT by JayGalt
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