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{vanity} For all the Trumpsters
self (vanity) | 04/27/16 | Neil E. Wright

Posted on 04/27/2016 10:27:56 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright

I have a message for all the Trumpsters. Your behavior and antics in the past couple of months, and the antics of your "savior", The Donald, have made my decision about who to vote for, and who NOT to vote for in November easy.

If your guy is the nominee for the Republican Party, he WILL lose in November, and YOU WILL OWN IT. Because I will NEVER vote for that statist socialist, parasitic, steaming pile of obama.

Now, I've been told that JimRob is banning anyone who states publicly that they will not vote for trump. So be it. I have enjoyed Jim's friendship for many years, and I'll be sorry to lose it, but I WILL NOT surrender my principles that easily. Herewith is an article by Herschel Smith, that encapsulates my thoughts.

Trump’s Lies And Triangulation

I have said for a very long time to my family and others that the experience of parents having and raising children isn’t really about the children.  God will handle the children as He sees fit.  It’s about the parents, and there are two experiences that test your mettle more than any other: marriage and children.  It’s one of God’s way of sanctifying His own, but it has the opposite affect on others.

One reason I care about the election cycle isn’t because I think we can make a difference.  Oh, we can in some ways, we can’t in others.  We can make a difference in the medical care situation in the country, but we can’t in the global financial system.  This discussion is saved for another time.  But one thing the individual vote does at one and the same time is affect the soul and show the content of the soul of the voter.  It’s a deeply moral act that has eternal consequences for the one who is given stewardship of the vote.

Now let me turn for a moment to a recent commentary by Jonah Goldberg.  Sometimes I disagree vehemently with him, but other times he hits on all cylinders.  This day the engine was running to perfection on the dynamometer.

This week there have been some cracks in the façade. Trump’s attacks on Heidi Cruz unsettled even Ann Coulter. And his abortion remarks are still sending tremors through the granite foundations of Trump can-do-no-wrong-ism. Joe Scarborough and Breitbart’s John Nolte are talking about what a bad week he’s having and gravely warning Trump to get his act together. As Jim Geraghty has been writing, the problem with such second thoughts is the assumption that something is amiss with Trump or his campaign. This is Trump. This is his campaign. The Trump we see before us is the same Trump. It’s a bit like when Barack Obama said that the Jeremiah Wright he saw denouncing America wasn’t the man he knew. That was nonsense. Obama knew exactly who Wright was, having attended his church for 20 years. It was only when Wright’s act moved to a larger national stage that all of a sudden he became inconvenient to Obama.

The analogy isn’t perfect, of course. But the basic point is the same. The Donald Trump of the last week is the exact same Donald Trump many of us saw a year ago or five years ago. He’s always been full of sh*t. He’s always been a total ignoramus when it comes to public policy, lacking the simple sense of patriotic duty to do his homework on the issues. He’s always been a nasty and boorish cad. He’s always pretended to be a conservative while working on liberal assumptions of what conservatives want to hear.

His “punish the women” comments were of a piece with his refusal to condemn the Klan on CNN. It’s not that he wants to punish women who have abortions — I’d bet he’s paid more abortion bills than he will ever sign — it’s that he thinks that’s what pro-lifers want to hear. It’s not that he’s a Klansman or that the pillowcases at Mara Lago come with eyeholes cut out in advance. It’s that Trump thinks lots of his fans like the Klan and he wants to pander to them. I have heard first-hand stories from people who’ve worked with Trump about how he disparages women’s appearance routinely. That’s who he is. If you’re attacking him because he retweeted a bad picture of Heidi, that’s not you being principled, it’s you getting cold feet. Indeed, I am sure that the same opportunism that has caused so many supposedly principled conservatives to hitch their wagons to Trump is now causing some of them to question their choices, not because Trump has changed but because the climate might be changing around them. By all means, if Trump continues to unravel (a huge if), please abandon Trump. But don’t think for a moment that the rest of us will automatically take your word for it when you say this or that statement changed your mind about the man. He hasn’t changed, your calculations have.

[ … ]

Like all demagogues, he’s using his lies as a loyalty test for his followers. He’s exploiting his popularity and abusing the devotion of his fans to force them into going along with his fictions, until they are in so deep psychologically, they have no choice but to carry on. It’s an ancient psychological tactic of authoritarians, Mafia dons, and the like: Force your followers into sharing the blame for your misdeeds so that they can’t break ranks.

Jonah is right.  He thinks we want to see women who have gotten abortions in the town center in stocks and chains.  He’s pandering to the social right, but he missed on this, and he missed badly.  His other positions – support for the second amendment, advocacy for closed borders – can only be assumed to be pandering as well.

Not to worry, though.  Just about as soon as he said it, he triangulated his position again, to something like abortion laws are already set and we have to leave it that way.  Trumps views on abortion aren’t the topic here.  Trump is the topic.  He is a mirror in which everyone sees what he or she wants to see, its just that the mirror has to be adjusted based on the onlooker and Trump isn’t really as good a triangulator as he is made out to be.

And that brings me to the conservative voters who have already cast their votes for Trump in the primaries heretofore.  Do you remember when socialized medicine was the most important thing about the Obama administration, the holy grail of the progressives?  It still is.

And yet, you have jettisoned that most important piece of your world view to support a man who sees things far differently than you, who supports socialized medicine, and who has said that the only thing he would change about the current system is to allow it to cross state lines.

Trump has woven you into his deception, his lies, his evil.  And when socialized medicine is codified and solidified for you, your children, and your children’s children to the tenth generation of your progeny, when you see that your seed will hate you and this generation for what has been done to the country, it will be far too late.

Open wide, and suck it down.  This is what you voted for, whether in the end it’s Hillary or Trump, or some replacement for Hillary.  Own it.  It’s yours.  The Mafia don asked you to pull the trigger and do the deed.  It’s no longer about him.  Now it’s about you.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
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To: MIA_eccl1212
It is the realignment of our nation into the the "america only and americans first" party versus the "nwo, open borders, make money via any means, even if America falls" political poles of the nation. Poles as opposite as North and South.

You're right, that's definitely a component of this struggle.

Hence the opposition of William Kristol and his ideological neocon ilk.

To them, anything this overtly pro-American and nationalistic is anathema.

This struggle is occurring on many different levels, each having its own meaning and importance to different groups of American patriots.

What's happening could be Revolutionary, if it doesn't fail or get sabotaged.

It's sad for me to see otherwise patriotic Americans actually bypass an opportunity for positive change, all because they feel the standard-bearer is the wrong person, or that the movement isn't ideologically pure enough.

In doing so, they become dismissive, conceited, and ultimately viciously abusive, and they miss out on what's really happening, which is a real movement by real Americans across the political, ideological, and cultural spectrum.

The potential for positive change with this phenomenon is very great, IMHO, and the downside risk is virtually nil, given the Uniparty status quo the American People are currently faced with.

Indeed, the greatest risk is inaction. Truly:

"All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
Donald Trump is a Revolutionary voice who has joined ours. He has connects with the pulse of an angry nation. Why? Because he;s s decent American just like all of us!

Donald Trump will be a great President. He has unquestionably earned my support.

Look what Donald Trump has been able to withstand, and even defeat: an unprecedented, unholy alliance comprised of all the right enemies: the Left, the Media, the GOPe; the Establishment in general. And even Ted Cruz has joined the Enemy.

And this entrenched, corrupt, elite class, to a person, are pissing down their leg at the prospect of Donald Trump becoming President.

These arrogant elites despise American Liberty, and wish nothing but to see it extinguished! God forbid!

Will the Revolution fail? God forbid.

And this time, at least, that's a very good thing.

So Tories and Loyalists need not apply...

Vote Trump

261 posted on 04/28/2016 1:42:06 AM PDT by sargon (Cruz should've focused on EARNING people's votes instead of STEALING delegates that represent them.)
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To: PhilDragoo

That’s WONDERFUL, Phil; as always! You are a TREASURE!


262 posted on 04/28/2016 1:42:38 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
I hate no one....

You are no different than the Obama groupies....

I mean really look at yourself.........

263 posted on 04/28/2016 1:43:56 AM PDT by Osage Orange (The GOPe.....are actually worse than the Dim's)
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To: Neil E. Wright; Jim Robinson

Jim, I’ve been meaning to do this for awhile but haven’t gotten around to it. Seems good a time as any. Where do I need to go to sign up as a monthly donor?


264 posted on 04/28/2016 1:43:58 AM PDT by Spirit of Liberty (The Cheater and the Eater got their asses beat by the Tweeter!)
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To: Neil E. Wright
Here's the fundamental error of the people writing these diatribes against Trump:

But one thing the individual vote does at one and the same time is affect the soul and show the content of the soul of the voter. It’s a deeply moral act that has eternal consequences for the one who is given stewardship of the vote.

This is true only if one votes for the Satanic, murderous, totalitarian, greedy, baby-killing, violent, Jihad-purchased, evil witch, Hillary Clinton--or any other candidate of the Baby-Murdering Party.

Casting a vote for Donald Trump is a vote to keep a baby-murdering agent of Jihad out of the White House. The notion that voting for Trump sullies one's soul because he is on his third wife is utterly jejune.

And yet that is the argument one sees everywhere. So these people are going to stay home. Doing so is to cast ONE-HALF-A-VOTE for the totalitarian, Jihad-loving baby-murderers.

Every Presidential cycle, one hears the cry, "A vote for the lesser evil is still a vote for evil."

Of course it is.

But it's still a vote for the lesser evil!

And since that's the only choice on offer, grow up!

265 posted on 04/28/2016 1:44:46 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Neil E. Wright

Did you giggle like a school girl as you typed ‘Trumpster’?
The irrational hatred shown for Trump here on FR shows hate to the core level. You hate a successful business man who has done nothing to you.


266 posted on 04/28/2016 1:45:40 AM PDT by FreedomGuru (Leave my gluten alone hands off)
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To: Lakeshark

what you said.
he needs to.
but.
he won’t.


267 posted on 04/28/2016 1:46:26 AM PDT by MIA_eccl1212 (10 rounds 10 meters 10 seconds 10 centimetres)
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To: Osage Orange

You make it sound as if Trump has promised his supporters that he will die and rise on the third day, and that his supporters accept it as gospel.

None of that is true.

Instead, we are just hiring Trump to carry out a specific set of fixes for the country.


268 posted on 04/28/2016 1:46:32 AM PDT by Vision Thing (painfully mathematically eliminaTED)
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To: PhilDragoo; KC_Lion; hoosiermama; Jane Long; maggief; 3D-JOY; Guenevere; entropy12; glock rocks; ...





DEAREST PhilDragoo!!!



269 posted on 04/28/2016 1:46:38 AM PDT by onyx (You're here posting, so sign-up to DONATE MONTHLY!)
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To: Osage Orange

It should, but since it doesn’t, you should go see a doctor.


270 posted on 04/28/2016 1:49:32 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Maurice Tift

And Trump doesn’t have a VALUE ADDED TAX that will claw back every penny of his income-tax-rate cuts.


271 posted on 04/28/2016 1:53:03 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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272 posted on 04/28/2016 1:55:49 AM PDT by onyx (You're here posting, so sign-up to DONATE MONTHLY!)
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To: Neil E. Wright

273 posted on 04/28/2016 1:56:59 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: Osage Orange
You really need a great deal of mental health support.

Unlike the idiot Obama nutcases and the equally nutso Cruz cultists, I'm a rational, very well educated, politically astute person.

Though I wasn't really interested in, nor did I "follow" Trump. news about him, from various sources was inescapable. So I am well aware of him, his doings, and his positions for decades.

You, OTOH, might as well don sackcloth and ashes, walk barefoot through cities and towns, carrying a huge sign that reads THE END IS NIGH, for all the good your pathetically stupid posts read.

I know myself very well. You don't know anything at all about me. But I and others know, from your posts, that you're far removed from seeing reality.

274 posted on 04/28/2016 1:58:04 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: chris37
And what if...Trump is lying his ass off..chris37?

I'm not convinced this guy is us telling the truth.

You've been around for some time...

He has ties to the Clinton's....People just seem to blow that off...

He as ties to union mobs...People just seem to blow that off.

He is not a billionaire....as "they" say. He isn't.

We are being screwed again...And the rank and file..have no idea.

275 posted on 04/28/2016 2:01:32 AM PDT by Osage Orange (The GOPe.....are actually worse than the Dim's)
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To: nopardons
People will always surprise you...

You have not, though.

276 posted on 04/28/2016 2:10:18 AM PDT by Osage Orange (The GOPe.....are actually worse than the Dim's)
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To: lodi90

How many Senators are more conservative than Cruz?

So Cruz is the only candidate who’s criticized other Republicans? Which primary have you been watching?


277 posted on 04/28/2016 2:11:20 AM PDT by JediJones (Looks like those clowns in Congress did it again. What a bunch of clowns.)
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To: nopardons
I am in the health care field...

Pretty sure I don't need to see a "doctor"..........

Is that all you got?

278 posted on 04/28/2016 2:14:51 AM PDT by Osage Orange (The GOPe.....are actually worse than the Dim's)
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To: nopardons

Well said...very well said.


279 posted on 04/28/2016 2:16:18 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: Neil E. Wright

Just take a chill pill, close your eyes, and listen to Trump’s foreign policy speech.


280 posted on 04/28/2016 2:17:19 AM PDT by grania
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