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PETER HITCHENS: America isn't our special friend. It ruined our Navy, Empire and future
dailymail.com ^ | 4/24/2016 | Peter Hitchens

Posted on 04/24/2016 6:22:49 AM PDT by Nextrush

Now will we grasp that the United States is not our friend, but a foreign country whose interests are often different from ours?

President Obama's blatant intervention in our internal affairs is not a sudden breach of a soppy 'special relationship'. The USA's only real special relationship is with Saudi Arabia, a 70-year old hard pact of oil, money and power, welded together with such cynicism it out to make up gasp.

Barack Obama's open desire for us to stay inside the EU is by no means the first or worst example of White House meddling here in these islands. Bill Clinton forced us to cave to the Provisional IRA in 1998 and his successor, George W. Bush, continued the policy by making us to Sinn Fein's bidding afterwards.

Washington came close to scuppering our recapture of the Falklands in 1982. And with the current state of our Armed Forces, which can nowadays do nothing without American support, I often wonder how the White House and the Pentagon would behave if Argentina once again seized Port Stanley.

If anyone thinks Hillary Clinton is a great friend of Britain, they're in for a big surprise.

But surely the Americans fought with us should to shoulder against the Kaiser and Hitler? Not exactly. The USA (quite rightly) fought for its own interest in both great wars, not for us.

When we ran out of money after the First World War, Washington seized the chance to force us to limit our Navy, and so began to overtake us as the world's major naval power. We had feared Germany would do this. It is one of the great ironies of history that the USA ended British sea power.

In the blackest months of the Second World War, just after the fall of France.....

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1 posted on 04/24/2016 6:22:49 AM PDT by Nextrush
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To: Nextrush

I might have known Hitchens would have a breakdown over this. For God’s sake, Brits, ignore Obama’s remarks and vote your conscience one way or another.


2 posted on 04/24/2016 6:24:21 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Turks (Muslims))
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To: Nextrush
"President Obama's blatant intervention in our internal affairs .... "

NO one can "interfere" with a sovereign nation

The opposition was home grown and already there

3 posted on 04/24/2016 6:25:00 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Nextrush

He sounds rather like a raving lunatic, what?


4 posted on 04/24/2016 6:26:19 AM PDT by Buttons12 ( It Can't Happen Here -- Sinclair Lewis.)
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To: Nextrush

One of the unfortunate and largely unspoken tragedies of the 20th Century was the dismemberment of the British Empire. It held in check a lot of evil forces that have become problems for the US since the end of the Cold War.


5 posted on 04/24/2016 6:26:23 AM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: Nextrush

They’ve already decided to commit suicide anyway by allowing those who hate their country to overrun it and replace its population.


6 posted on 04/24/2016 6:26:53 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: miss marmelstein

“Great” Britain has 4 centuries of disastrous decision making and a legacy of millions dead.

They should be kissing our asses everyday that they still exist as a nation.


7 posted on 04/24/2016 6:27:45 AM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: GenXteacher

One of the unfortunate and largely unspoken tragedies of the 17th 18th and 19th centuries was the existence of the British Empire.

It created many of the evil forces that have become problems for the US since the end of the Cold War.


8 posted on 04/24/2016 6:28:57 AM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: Nextrush

If they feel this way, they should pull out of NATO.


9 posted on 04/24/2016 6:29:51 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The GOPe must be defeated.....the sooner the better.)
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To: MadIsh32

So are you claiming that the Second Reich ought to have one World War 1?


10 posted on 04/24/2016 6:30:26 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: MadIsh32

*one = won


11 posted on 04/24/2016 6:31:01 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Nextrush

Foreign interventionism, unchecked immigration, and Socialism ruined Great Britain.

Next on the list....


12 posted on 04/24/2016 6:32:02 AM PDT by TTFlyer
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To: MadIsh32

Funny you can’t name any of them.


13 posted on 04/24/2016 6:32:21 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Don’t put words into my mouth.

However the British empire’s actions during WW1, and at the Paris peace conference helped cement and create the greatest evil in the world today: Saudi Arabia.


14 posted on 04/24/2016 6:32:24 AM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: Nextrush

The author of the article needs to research the term globalism.


15 posted on 04/24/2016 6:32:57 AM PDT by PJBankard (Political Correctness has killed America. It is time America is resurrected.)
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To: Nextrush
.. Now will we grasp that the United States is not our friend, but a foreign country whose interests are often different from ours? ...

What the HELL, Hitchens??

Just sad, the way you've steadily declined from a lone voice of Brit commonsense into a git off my lawn now where'd I put my haemorrhoid cream applicator contrarian.

16 posted on 04/24/2016 6:33:40 AM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie (It's them or us.)
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To: Olog-hai

The British empire propped up the House of Saud and used them to destroy the Ottomans during WW1.

The House of Saud is the greatest evil in the world today. They would not be a world power without British help, and “Lawrence of Arabia.”

They more then likely would have been killed off, along with the evil of Wahhabism.


17 posted on 04/24/2016 6:34:05 AM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
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18 posted on 04/24/2016 6:34:28 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: MadIsh32
.. One of the unfortunate and largely unspoken tragedies of the 17th 18th and 19th centuries was the existence of the British Empire ..

What utter nonsense.

You and Hitchens are either side of the same (clipped) coin.

19 posted on 04/24/2016 6:35:25 AM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie (It's them or us.)
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To: MadIsh32

Add to your comment that had Britain not made some very bad decisions all on their own, they would not now be in the position that the must rely on the likes of obummer for support and protection.

Example: Neville Chamberlain was not an American.


20 posted on 04/24/2016 6:35:34 AM PDT by old curmudgeon
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