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TRUMP Likely to Win West Virginia Vote But Lose the Delegates to Cruz
Gateway Pundit ^ | April 16, 2016 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 04/16/2016 5:43:18 PM PDT by bobsunshine

Donald Trump is set to win West Virginia but GOP elites will likely give the delegates to Ted Cruz anyway.

It’s the latest state where Cruz will lose but garner more delegates than Donald Trump. Cruz supporters call this a “good ground game.” The Politico reported: Donald Trump has a new enemy in the fight for national convention delegates: the alphabet.

Trump is well-positioned for a resounding victory in West Virginia’s May 10 primary, but his win will be accompanied by a delegate selection process stacked in favor of people with last names at the beginning of the alphabet — rather than his most committed supporters.

It’s a quirk of West Virginia’s mind-bogglingly complex delegate election process that has the Trump campaign on red alert and seems likely to leave the mogul with weaker support at the national convention than he’s expected to earn in the state’s primary. It’s yet another convoluted primary system likely to add fuel to Trump’s complaints that the rules of the Republican nomination process are rigged.

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To: House Atreides

Of the 37 delegates on your ballot, you mentioned that three delegates were identified as “Trump” and three were identified as “Cruz.”

What about the other 31 choices? Were they unbound? Some for Kasich? Some for candidates who have dropped out since the ballots were printed?

Just wondering.


201 posted on 04/16/2016 11:11:25 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The GOPe must be defeated.....the sooner the better.)
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To: lonestar67

Your GOPe thug is stealing the Republican nomination, and you’re good with that. Things like this cause shooting. Lots of it.


202 posted on 04/16/2016 11:31:02 PM PDT by jonascord (It's sarcasm unless otherwise noted... This time, it's not.)
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To: DoughtyOne

The delegates are elected by name on the ballot. But there is some rule saying you can’t vote for too many delegates from the same district. The article actually says both Trump and Cruz would lose delegates if their voters pick the first 22 names on their lists because they won’t meet the district division rule, but Trump would lose a couple more. Kasich screwed up and only filed 10 delegates out of 22 potential to be elected.

If the campaigns let everyone know specifically which delegates to vote for, then they won’t lose anything.


203 posted on 04/16/2016 11:31:11 PM PDT by JediJones (Looks like those clowns in Congress did it again. What a bunch of clowns.)
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To: lonestar67

Your GOPe thug is stealing the Republican nomination, and you’re good with that. Things like this cause shooting. Lots of it.


204 posted on 04/16/2016 11:31:57 PM PDT by jonascord (It's sarcasm unless otherwise noted... This time, it's not.)
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To: jonascord

Nobody’s stealing anything. Following the rules is not stealing, it’s playing the game better.

Ignorance causes violence more than anything.


205 posted on 04/16/2016 11:34:02 PM PDT by JediJones (Looks like those clowns in Congress did it again. What a bunch of clowns.)
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To: bobsunshine; onyx; nopardons; Georgia Girl 2; Salamander; Yaelle; Pelham; DoughtyOne

Cruz is just plain disappointing...his collusion with GOPe

And that family interview

That precocious daughter was a charm...I really liked her

But Heidi is a hurt pained lady....it’s painted on her sweet face

I’m an old man I know women as well as I know myself

You can just see it

I loved the kids truly darling girls but the husband wife thing was strained no question

Freeper women here tell me I’m wrong


206 posted on 04/16/2016 11:40:12 PM PDT by wardaddy (gonna need a lot of rope and lamposts and gibbets after this primary season.....)
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To: wardaddy

I didn’t see it, Wardaddy. But I’ve been noticing that Heidi’s face is very tense and unpleasant looking each time I’ve seen her since the scandals broke. I don’t know if she always knew but like Hillary just didn’t want to be humiliated, or if maybe he was cheating on her for real and she didn’t know.


207 posted on 04/16/2016 11:44:02 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

It’s just sad

Really lovely bright little girls


208 posted on 04/16/2016 11:48:00 PM PDT by wardaddy (gonna need a lot of rope and lamposts and gibbets after this primary season.....)
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To: altura
If this system is not the will of the people, the people in each state can correct it. It may involve getting off their butts but it can be done.

Bingo

209 posted on 04/16/2016 11:57:38 PM PDT by TXSearcher (The anti-RINO rebellion is being won by a NY RINO.......truth IS stranger than fiction.)
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To: bobsunshine

This is from Hoft, who has published lots ofabsolute falsehoods about Colorado.

I am an eyewitness in Colorado, went to March 1st precinct caucus and VOTED, got elected to County Assembly and State Assembly. Hoft was not there, was out of his mind. He repeats every rumor he hears without checking it out.

This was a fellow delegate. This is the real story:

http://ariarmstrong.com/2016/04/breaking-jim-hoft-flubs-story-about-deny-trump-flyer/


210 posted on 04/17/2016 12:10:27 AM PDT by cookcounty (Why are Trump's poll numbers against a wounded Hillary so AWFUL? Hello? No answer?)
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To: sargon
They were concerned about democratic excess, of course, but they also specifically despised the notion of party and factions.

So best to present the full picture, not your cherry-picked version of it.

Okay, I'll be happy to provide some more of the "picture":

It was members of a "party" (the Federalists) who helped form consensus for the Constitution: Alexander Hamilton, John Jay, and James Madison

The Republican Party (also known as Democratic-Republicans or Jeffersonian Republicans)...under Thomas Jefferson, was formed to push state's rights in order to fight against the "centralist" Govt the Federalists were forming.

So you had founding father's in two different "parties". The Federalists for the wealthy....and Jefferson's for the common man.

Thomas Jefferson's party splintered (over tariffs?), if I remember correctly., and the Federalists had pretty much disappeared as a party of influence.

You are correct that old George Washington didn't like people forming any type political parties as evidenced when he stated: "The very idea of the power and the right of the people to establish government presupposes the duty of every individual to obey the established government."

Seeing how the People nowadays are subject to the whims of the two-faced, systematically corrupt Uniparty system, the Founders would doubtless be furious...

Nope....they would just think they had seen all this before....

211 posted on 04/17/2016 12:14:07 AM PDT by TXSearcher (The anti-RINO rebellion is being won by a NY RINO.......truth IS stranger than fiction.)
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To: silverleaf
To republicans, voting means nothing

False. But to vote you have to turn off the Trump Rally re-runs, go to your precinct meeting at the school and VOTE, that's V-O-T-E (like I did). But you didn't care. And neither did Donald Trump, he didn't lift a single finger to encourage his own supporters to show up. The turnout of Trump supporters in my precinct was pathetic. There was only ONE guy who even wanted to be a delegate (one out of 9).

Cruz told his people to go vote. So did Rubio. Even though Rubio was dropping fast at that point, he still had TWICE as many supporters as Trump. But Donald didn't do bupkas to get people to vote for him in Colorado. He didn't say one thing. To his own people. Shameful. Incompetent.

Face it, Trump is the Choker that Choked in Colorado.

So now he's saying dumb stuff like "people were not allowed to vote." Nobody was turned away. Nobody. He is LYING. Lying Donny. Lying Donny.Lying, clueless whining Donny. "We're going to have so much whining, so much whining, we're going to be sick of whining."

And, you know what? He was right, I am sick of whining.

212 posted on 04/17/2016 12:34:06 AM PDT by cookcounty (Why are Trump's poll numbers against a wounded Hillary so AWFUL? Hello? No answer?)
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To: DoughtyOne
"You should start your own nation, since you don’t agree with the morals of the one you’re living in.

That would be difficult.

But taking over a party is much much easier. All you have to do is get your people to show up to caucus. And then vote. Yes, we did vote at Caucus, even though ignorant Donald is still lying saying nobody voted.

The Cruz people cared enough and were motivated enough to show up. But not the Trump people. They watched TV. You snooze, you lose.

213 posted on 04/17/2016 12:53:33 AM PDT by cookcounty (Why are Trump's poll numbers against a wounded Hillary so AWFUL? Hello? No answer?)
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To: cookcounty

You lose in the General when your base hates you too.


214 posted on 04/17/2016 1:01:45 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: bobsunshine

I believe the WV delegates are bound to whatever candidate they’re declared for on the ballot. They vote for the delegates by name. So theoretically multiple candidates could win some delegates.


215 posted on 04/17/2016 1:01:46 AM PDT by JediJones (Looks like those clowns in Congress did it again. What a bunch of clowns.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

we cant even get people to stop paying their taxes to starve the beast. You

think we’d ever get people to go the other route. No way. That ship

long sailed. People are too comfortable to ever take that route again.


216 posted on 04/17/2016 1:19:12 AM PDT by hillarys cankles
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To: cookcounty

The public hates your candidate and that hate is growing everyday.

Just because you’ve come to terms with your establishment backed candidate doesn’t mean most people here would ever do that.

Ted Cruz is the insider/establishment candidate being used to further the

Establishments power. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.


217 posted on 04/17/2016 1:22:58 AM PDT by hillarys cankles
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To: JediJones
"Following the rules is not stealing, it’s playing the game better.

Do you work for the BLM or the EPA ?

218 posted on 04/17/2016 1:26:43 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: cookcounty

Having read the reports from various delegate meetings I now understand more about how a small oligarchy controls the local process and uses it to subvert the vote. So good luck with that party thing. Just another institution shown to be rotted from within.

And given your rhetoric about “ Donny” we don’t belong in the same party, anyway. Much gloating and self righteousness about this sick process. The folks aren’t buyin’ it and they aren’t buying your banner man Ted, either.


219 posted on 04/17/2016 1:56:23 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: wardaddy

You’re right but I think you may be misreading the kids
There are several videos ( not just one) that show very sad mannerisms of the children toward their father. Set off my mom radar. And he goes on the interview and jokes about having to chase them down to kiss them.


220 posted on 04/17/2016 1:59:56 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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