Posted on 04/14/2016 1:04:43 PM PDT by Nachum
JTA — If Ohio Gov. John Kasich’s visit to Hasidic Brooklyn this week had yielded only one amusing moment, Dayenu – it would have been enough.
But, thank God, there were many in the Republican presidential candidate’s visit to a Jewish bookstore, shmura matzah bakery and Hasidic school in Borough Park on Tuesday.
“It’s a wonderful, wonderful holiday for our friends in the Jewish community – the Passover,” Kasich told reporters after emerging from the matzah bakery, a box of the fresh-baked stuff in hand.
Yes, Jews are known to love The Passover, almost as much they love The Pre-Election Drop-By from vote-seeking politicians.
Flanked by Hasidic publicist Ezra Friedlander, Kasich then launched into a brief appraisal of the links between Passover and, um, the blood of Jesus Christ.
“The great link between the blood that was put above the lampposts” – er, you mean doorposts, governor — “the blood of the lamb, because Jesus Christ is known as the lamb of God. It’s his blood, we believe …”
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His holy screw is loose.
Highly bump-worthy observation. Well done.
A friend of mine up in New Hampshire said that Kasich is a moron...and I didn’t believe him.
Now I do.
I suppose that, if one is Christian, it is just fine to believe that (I will leave that up to Christian theologians to decide). But to even say “Jesus C.....” in a religious Jewish community is insulting (because it specifically states that the Messiah has come already, and the Jews are wrong), let alone saying that part of the Jewish Bible foretold his arrival 2,000 years ago. Again, he can believe what he wants - that’s anyone’s right - but you have to be a moron if you’re seeking votes in a religious community while telling them that they have it all wrong.
LOL! If I was a Jew in the neighborhood, I’d ask him if he read that just to see what kind of response he’d come up with.
The attempted meaning would have been correct, yes.
Prayer takes the place of sacrifice - except for the ultra-orthodox - at least until The Temple is restored.
Animal sacrifice is not currently a widespread practice in Judaism.
Not a Jewish belief. If Kasich was proselytizing, that’s completely inappropriate in a political context.
If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me. ..................
Third Kasich thread today on his educational outreach.
You are, of course, correct. I am surprised by how many people who would otherwise identify themselves as Christians apparently don't understand the Messianic typology of the Passover lamb. This is a paint-by-numbers stuff -- what do they think John the Baptist meant? (i.e., John 1:29) -- even if (attempted) Kasich's expression of it was rather poorly done in this instance.
And, as you say, the setting in which he related it was, on its face, rather "provocative." If Kasich actually intended it as such, I'd have to give him credit (although I don't know how he thought do so would help him politically); if he was being inadvertently impolitic, well, then, Kasich was, in his own way, as off-base as Trump's referring to "Second Corinthians" as "Two Corinthians" during his speech a few months back at Liberty University.
Did he try to cut a matzo with a knife and fork?
“Prayer takes the place of sacrifice....”
Thank you. I’ve never heard that before. As a Christian that is something that I should remember and learn better.
I thought the Temple was needed for the sacrifice? Although I guess when it was just the Ark and tent it was okay. How do the ultra-orthodox do sacrifices now?
I recall in Sunday School the pastor reading from the Old Testament about the HUGE numbers of animals sacrificed as the Ark traveled (to the Temple for the first time?). Tens of thousands all along the way iirc. And then once they got to the Temple it was even more. It was pretty amazing the amount of personal value, energy and devotion that was put into their worship.
Hmm - which brings me back to prayer. How much value and energy and devotion do I put into that? Very little. (My old man would tell me he was always praying. In the car, waiting in lines, etc.)
Right idea but bad execution.lol. Kinda tells you all you need to know about Kasich.
I’ve been around Kasich a few times. He’s a go with the flow kind of guy when he’s in a crowd. I remember his asking some of our high school kids a question about what they were studying, they couldn’t answer, so he in good taste joked with them about being knuckleheads. It’s just his personality, I think. It was a stream of consciousness comment for him.
But if you want to make a prophetic argument like that to impress Jewish people to consider investigating Christianity, don't make silly mistakes like saying "lamp-stand" and know enough about Judaism to understand what the Talmud is and how Jesus referenced it indirectly when he criticized the Pharisees about adding burdens to people and not lifting a finger to help. And the flaps between him and the religious teachers about doing good on the Sabbath.
No,gas.
I don’t think he was proselytizing. I think he was trying to build a bridge and show commonalities. I read the article, and no one seemed out of sorts if I understood the author correctly. I never gave Trump grief over the 2 Corinthians comment, because that’s how I refer to it more often than not when I’m preaching. I might say “turn in your Bible to Second Corinthians, chapter 1 and verse 1” when opening, but often when citing, I’ll just say, “Like it says in 2 Co 1:1”. Sometimes, I’ll even say “Co”.
Yeah, that’s right. It was in ‘olden’ times.........................
In cringe-worthy moment, GOP hopeful says ‘blood of the lamb above the lampposts’ was Christ’s, as he’s known as ‘the lamb of God’
Hoo boy..
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