Posted on 04/11/2016 9:27:21 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
Over the weekend, Kasich’s campaign teamed up with Trump’s operation in Michigan to help Trump delegates gobble up convention committee posts that would otherwise have gone to Cruz. While the effects of the Michigan deal may be marginal, it was the best evidence yet that Team Kasich is more comfortable with a Trump nomination than a Cruz one.
The Kasich campaign defended aiding Trump on the grounds that Cruz deserved it as a punishment for trying to scoop up too many delegates. But whether it was bad blood, pique or part of a larger strategy, Kasich’s part in any anti-Trump strategy is increasingly in doubt.
From Kasich’s point of view, it’s understandable. We all know that the Ohio governor doesn’t have a path to win outright, or even on the first or second ballots in a contested Republican National Convention in July. But at the moment, Kasich doesn’t seem to have much of a path to win many more delegates in the remaining 16 states.
The sweet spot on the calendar for Kasich, a moderate establishmentarian who touts his record of bipartisanship, is the last two weeks of April, when a bevy of liberal Northeastern states hold their primaries.
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There is one other role available to Kasich: the man who delivers the nomination to Trump. If Trump accepts Kasich as running mate with actual influence over the campaign and Kasich unbinds his delegates, it might be enough to put Trump over the top on the first ballot. Remember also that Kasich and Trump have advisers, Paul Manafort and Charlie Black, who were former business partners and longtime friends.
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If you use a postage meter at your business it will have to be changed to reflect the new amount for mail.
It is clear. Republican Delegates recoil from the most popular vote earning candidate. Why not go all the way with that logic and nominate the LEAST popular candidate. It’s perfectly reasonable, if being the front runner is bad, being the biggest loser in the primary must be the strongest candidate. Who did the worst? Let’s nominate him!
I don’t like Kasick as much as Rubio. Yes Rubio screwed up bad on immigration, but his foreign policy knowledge is outstanding. Trump as the head of the ticket would ensure immigration is ok with the wall. One thing I’d like is to stop sanctuary cities. Mostly due to terrorism.
It looks like Trump is going to team up with Kasich.
Two gun-grabbers would lose in a landslide.
Agree, from an issues standpoint Rubio is better. Being Trump’s VP and helping with the wall will let Rubio pay his “Gang of 8” penance.
But if you’re looking for tactical Presidential politics, you go with the VP candidate that can help win you states.
Kasich helps with the Midwest. I think Trump has Florida well in hand.
Trump is not a gun grabber. He has a more offensive plan on gun rights than Cruz. Saying otherwise is to ignore the candidates stated positions.
Cruz is solid on Gun rights.
Kasich is pretty much a liberal and that includes gun rights.
Honestly the real way this should come down in Trump/Cruz 2016, Cruz 2020. While I have to admire Cruz’s pluck battle to overcome Trump, it is ultimately self-defeating, which makes me question his judgment at this time. I think he might be star struck by ambition..
Kasich would be an awful VP pick.
Please clarify, I do not get your post.
How has Trump aligned with GOPe?
Then the delegate goes to the county convention he/she is SWORN to vote for. The vote at the county convention is for new delegates to support a candidate at the STATE convention coming up. That person DOES'T NOT EVEN HAVE TO LIKE THE CANDIDATE THEY ARE "BOUND" TO SUPPORT. At each point, an oath is taken to follow the will of the last vote. Then, the county delegates assemble at the state conventions. All the same things are at the state convention. You have bound delegates that MUST vote for their candidate on the first ballot. If they can't get a majority( 50+1%), then the delegates are generally free to vote for whom they choose until someone gets a majority.
many of these delegates are party goes that like to go to conventions and get drunk and party. Some are serious that are dedicated to their candidate. some are actually plants from a candidate that is dedicated to their candidate to get them elected. as you can see, "having a ground game" become VERY important here. What Cruz has been doing for a couple of years now,( yes, even before he announced), was setting up dedicated people in all 50 states to at least make maximum effort to get him elected. When a delegate is a Cruz supporter, they can be voted into the rules committee and make rules that enhance Cruz's chances and hinder others. This is NOT cheating, but playing the game as EVERYONE else does. The problem here is Trump has been AWOL from the beginning. Trump is naive and ignorant of what he is trying to do. He doesn't even understand how to play.
Now we get to the national convention. If Trump wins the most delegates, but doesn't get 1237, there will be one vote that will fail to elect Trump as the nominee. The next vote will free many "bound delegates" to vote "their conscience". If Cruz has set up the rules and set his people in key positions, who do you think the delegates will vote for? People that were bound to Trump will dump him and switch to Cruz. Alternatively, at this time, the establishment can even switch their vote to Kasich, Rubio, or any other preconceived Tom, Dick, or Harry. This is not immoral or illegal, it's the system and has been for a hundred years at least. Trump could have and should have been doing the same all along, but to put it mildly, he didn't understand what he was even participating in. It would be interesting to take a poll here at FR and see how many voters have even attended one precinct convention in their entire lives. I have gone as far as the state convention before I was eliminated.
When you watch the nation convention coverage, take inventory of the people that you recognize. Are they Trump people, establishment Republicans, Cruz people, who? That will give you the first indication of what is about to transpire. Trump must win the first ballot or he will be sent packing. IMHO, Cruz will win because he has "the best ground game". His people will have been stacked in every crack and cranny to make things happen for Cruz. it's NOT luck when things go your way at a convention.
Love it or hate it, that's the way things work in the US. Cems just cut through the crap and assign "Super Delegates" to make sure their guy wins. At least Cruz had to invest time and money to have a chance. If Trump was serious about winning, he could have done the same thing in spades, as he had a $billion to the others few hundred $millions. This is why the RINO's KNEW Jeb was going to take it, he had the money. Didn't work! Trump just failed to understand how to do what he thought he could do. Trump can still win, but his hiring of a political professional is probably too late to give him a first vote win.
What this means is, if Christians had gone to the conventions and supported Christians, we could overthrow abortion and gay marriage. If gun owners went to the conventions, the Second Amendment wouldn't even be a topic of conversation. It's the same with any support group. The problem is the average voter has NO IDEA how civics work in the US. Ask a neighbor if they even know their is a county convention to go to? Al this is out in the open, but people don't pay attention to it. For whatever reason, they believe their vote elects a candidate and not a delegate. This is not some secret that requires a handshake and a password to find out about, but I have always been amazed at the people that just let the opportunity pass by to support the people they really want to win. Most people just don't care and let it pass by.
That pretty much describes what Trump has been doing. He got the people all "wee weed" up, then sit by and watched Cruz out maneuver him.
PS. As I type this, Trump is on TV complaining that he thought the US was a democracy. How stupid is that! It's been a republic since 1789. How can you enforce the Constitution if you don't even understand the system you are trying to win?
He is an anti-American globalist.
” He has a more offensive plan on gun rights than Cruz.”
BS!
Kasich is a joke.
he is anti-gun, wants to legalize all the illegals.
Could not wait to go to a gay wedding
Says he is a fiscal conservative. But has not proposed plan on anything fiscal, all he does is say he was with Reagan.
Cruz is a much better VP candidate, preparing him for the President slot in 2020.
He helps Trump with both social conservatives and the Midwest (west of the Mississippi river). I think Trumps policies alone will be sufficient in the upper Midwest and old industrial states east of the Mississippi. Kasich adds very little and given Trumps left of center life story, would not balance the ticket at all.
Hogwash! The whole Trump family is pro-2nd Amendment — probably much more active in the shooting business than most of Cruz’s supporters.
That is true. I agree Kasick would help a lot. There is something about him that makes me cringe. Lol. Of course a vote for trump-Kasick will come from me. Any scenario without trump will not get my vote. That when write in comes in handy.
Sir,
a one word answer does not refute the point.
here are the two candidates positions:
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/second-amendment-rights
https://www.tedcruz.org/issues/second-amendment-rights/
Both very solid, though for consistency over time Cruz wins, no doubt.
But look at the actions anticipated:
Cruz has no plan of action to take back rights lost.
Trump does. he wants to extend the equal protection clause to the 2nd amendment. very doable. if he succeeds the ~10 states with severe restrictions will see the following up set:
1) assault gun bans/restrictions
2) magazine bans
3) pistol bans
3) CC will be valid in all 50 states, just like your drivers license.
So yes, from the point of view of a who is actually planning something to actually push gun rights, Trump is better.
Now you could argue as to if trump really will do this or not, but that gets to another area of motivation, which is a separate subject, but if you care to go there, I can give you stuff on that as well.
Exactly. This synonymous with human toilet Cruz having flushed himself down his own toilet.
Rubio is a snake! He is an open borders sellout! Florida hates him.
Kasich for sure is not my first choice as a hypothetical Trump VP.
It could be that there is so much bad blood now between Cruz and Trump that there can’t be a reconciliation.
If that is the case, Rubio would be the better choice if the two choices available were Cruz and Rubio.
If Trump only had strong conservatives to pick from, regardless of the political map AND that were rock solid on illegal immigration - and Cruz is not being considered - there are other alternatives (not inclusive):
Tom Tancredo
Mike Lee
Greg Abbot
Jeff Sessions
I would be comfortable with a Trump/Walker ticket as well. That is only if Trump has 1,237 delegates on his own. If he needs someone else’s delegates, I think its either Kasich or Rubio, with the delegate math determining that outcome.
Chuckles, what you posted is synomymous with Cruz flushing himself down this own toilet. Swish...
Not quite fair.
Cruz is fighting hard to win. He id doing this with a single-mindedness that may be to his own detriment.
He is likely the best VP candidate there is to Trump, and that would set him up for a 2020 run, assuming the entire NBC thing works out in his favor.
if Cruz were not fighting so hard to win the nomination and had accepted a VP slot on the 15th of march, I think most Trump fans would be singing his praises right now.
Those on the right must think long term, beyond the primary and beyond this election to 2020 and 2024. it will literally take that long to undo the last 20 od years of uni-party betrayal.
We need all folks who want reform, be their emphasis social, nationalistic or economic issues.
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