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* LIVE TUE 3/22 ELECTION THREAD (AZ and UT)
Self | 3/22 | tatown

Posted on 03/22/2016 4:55:42 AM PDT by tatown

AZ - 58 delegates (Winner Take All)

UT - 40 delegates (Proportional, WTA > 50%)


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: americansamoa; arizona; arizonaprimary; az2016; cruz; livearizonaprimary; liveutahcaucus; primary; trump; ut2016; utah; utahcaucus
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To: HoosierWordsmith

Cruz has no chance to win nomination. Romney supports Kasich to screw up Ohio. Romney supports Cruz to screw up Utah. (Quite the switch) This is obviously his ploy to guarantee a contested convention where he will try to (with Republican establishment) pick himself or some other person.


41 posted on 03/22/2016 10:36:25 AM PDT by libsdrinkkoolaid
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To: HoosierWordsmith

The GOP is onto Cruz and even if he got the nomination, the GOP would immediately declare him ineligible, not an nbc.

Even if I liked Cruz, which I no longer do, and even if he could win the general, which he doesn’t have a prayer, I’d recognize the out clause for the establishment on this. It’s why they’re all in for Cruz right now, they won’t be stuck with him.


42 posted on 03/22/2016 10:38:34 AM PDT by Kenny
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To: Charles Henrickson

“Go, Ted, go! Cruz, the conservatives’ choice!”

Wrong. The GOPe’s choice.


43 posted on 03/22/2016 10:38:52 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Baldwin77

I heard there is a prayer posted on Facebook by an anti- Trump as follows: “Oh God,please don’t make me vote for Donald Trump to defeat hillary.” Go Trump.


44 posted on 03/22/2016 10:41:42 AM PDT by WENDLE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgIhGgrhQeE)
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To: justlittleoleme

Clinton will crush Trump. That chart in a nutshell. It is Cruz whom they would prefer to not run against.


45 posted on 03/22/2016 10:43:43 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Socialism and Anarchy are always the father and mother of their dreaded son, Fascism.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

exactly - At this point I think Trump is the only possible candidate that could lose against Clinton.


46 posted on 03/22/2016 10:45:35 AM PDT by justlittleoleme
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To: AmericanInTokyo; justlittleoleme
Clinton will crush Trump. That chart in a nutshell. It is Cruz whom they would prefer to not run against.

You ClintonCrushTrumpers make me laugh. :)

47 posted on 03/22/2016 10:48:24 AM PDT by kiryandil (Chicago, March 2016: The Delphi Technique in action...)
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To: HoosierWordsmith

Your Welcome


48 posted on 03/22/2016 10:48:35 AM PDT by justlittleoleme
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To: kiryandil

There will be nothing funny about a Clinton presidency.


49 posted on 03/22/2016 10:49:22 AM PDT by justlittleoleme
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To: justlittleoleme; AmericanInTokyo

Dunno. The GOP is very good at pulling defeat out of the jaws of victory. The only exception was when they let the big-government Bushes through. Otherwise the GOP sends up losers.

Just the fact that the GOP hates and resists Trump so hard, like they did Reagan, tells me Trump will probably beat Hillary. Reagan wasn’t supposed to beat the Dems in 1980 either.


50 posted on 03/22/2016 10:50:39 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: justlittleoleme

CT, RI, NY, NJ, PA, DE, Maryland, are all very much leaning towards Trump. I would be surprised if Trump lost any of them.

Utah Mormon crowd didn’t vote for Cruz in Nevada, so I don’t think Cruz will top 50 percent, he didn’t even top 50 percent in Texas.

As soon as someone other than Cruz takes 235 more delegates Cruz has no way of winning. But Trump is in a position to blow past the 1237 delegates needed.

If Trump is drawing dems and indy voters that is good for beating Hillary.

I call on Cruz to heed his own advise he gave K-sick, get out of the race so the establishment doesn’t nullify our votes with a Sham Convention.

The end comes for Cruz when another 235 delegates go to anyone else


51 posted on 03/22/2016 10:51:04 AM PDT by Zenjitsuman (A)
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To: Zenjitsuman

yeah the but-but-but crowds argument will be about done after today if trump can take az and some of ut


53 posted on 03/22/2016 11:00:17 AM PDT by jneesy (I want my country back and Trump is gonna give it to me)
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To: kiryandil
You ClintonCrushTrumpers make me laugh. :)

The other day, someone on FNC was interviewing Joe Trippi, the Dem operative and former Clinton campaign guy, and they asked him of the 3 remaining candidates who would he prefer to run against if he were Clinton. He said Cruz, because he sees Cruz as the most predictable and easy to defeat. I thought that was pretty telling.

54 posted on 03/22/2016 11:04:24 AM PDT by No Dems 2016
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To: tatown

Mormon me just voted for Trump in AZ. My Mormon MIL also came and voted for Trump, too. She didn’t like him at first, but since he has been moving to a more presidential tone, she began to listen to him and liked what he was saying.

We had a new voting location and it was interesting that for the first time I’ve seen, there were no political signs outside, whatsoever. At 9:30am, I was #92 and there was a steady stream of people. I was told that this was a strong turnout, especially since they were saying that 2/3 of the votes had already been cast in early voting.

My Mormon parents both voted for Trump at 8am and 60 people had already cast ballots before them.

Should be an interesting night tonight!


55 posted on 03/22/2016 11:06:02 AM PDT by Suz in AZ
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To: justlittleoleme

If you really don’t want Clinton, you’d better damn well vote for Trump. He is the only one they don’t know how to beat, the only one who knows where the Democrat bodies are buried.

Despite the media propaganda (see Carter up 20 pts v Reagan) Trump is the only one who can win.


56 posted on 03/22/2016 11:08:25 AM PDT by Kenny
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To: justlittleoleme
There will be nothing funny about a Clinton presidency.

Trump is gonna whip him up a batch of Crushed Hillary jam.

BTW, jlom - you needn't pretend with me. I know you're a cRuzbio cheerleader. :)

57 posted on 03/22/2016 11:08:31 AM PDT by kiryandil (Chicago, March 2016: The Delphi Technique in action...)
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To: libsdrinkkoolaid

“Cruz has no chance to win nomination. “
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You would be more accurate to say that Trump has a much better chance to win the nomination than Cruz. Cruz can still win it if he collects 78% of the remaining delegates...certainly the math works against him...but, he does have a chance!

When you say “screw up”...it would be better to say “win”...I’m sure Cruz does not view a win in Utah as a “screw up”.

Romney is on record as fomenting this “NeverTrump” movement for a contested convention. Right now it looks like a good possibility (not 100%) that Trump will gain enough delegates to win outright. All of this speculation could melt away by June.

However, were Trump to fall short of 1,237 delegates, he should still be able to take control of the convention through a union with Cruz or possibly even with either Kasich or Rubio (who will both have about 150 delegates) to control any convention rule changes that might be plotted by the RNC/GOPe. Trump knows the “Art of the Deal”...so, in this case, one of these other gentlemen might end up as VP, or Cruz on the SCOTUS?


58 posted on 03/22/2016 11:09:38 AM PDT by HoosierWordsmith
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To: Kenny

Already voted for Cruz... Will gladly vote for Cruz again in the General when he goes up against Clinton in the fall.


59 posted on 03/22/2016 11:10:00 AM PDT by justlittleoleme
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To: justlittleoleme
Already voted for Cruz..

Sorry, you actually voted for Hillary. Of course if there's enough of you out there I'll be sorry for the rest of us as well.

60 posted on 03/22/2016 11:13:19 AM PDT by Kenny
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