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Is Donald Trump a Modern-Day Cyrus ?
charisma news ^ | 3/10/2016 | Michael Brown

Posted on 03/17/2016 8:52:48 PM PDT by 11th_VA

Ever since Donald Trump began to surge as a candidate last year, Christians have been pointing to the book of Isaiah and comparing Trump with the ancient Persian King Cyrus. Some have even claimed that God has revealed to them that He will use Trump for the good of America just as He used Cyrus for the good of the Jewish people, even though Cyrus was a "pagan" king.

Could this be true?

Let's first look at the biblical and ancient Near Eastern evidence.

Cyrus (whose name was pronounced "ko-resh" in Hebrew) became king of Persia in 559 B.C. and conquered Babylon in 539 B.C. He is mentioned in a majestic passage in Isaiah where the Lord says of Cyrus, "'He is My shepherd, and shall perform all My desire'; and he declares to Jerusalem, 'You shall be built,' and to the temple, 'Your foundation shall be laid'" (Is. 44:28).

In other words, Cyrus would be the one who would cause Jerusalem to be rebuilt after it had been destroyed decades earlier by the Babylonians.

But there's more that Isaiah says about Cyrus as the prophecy continues into chapter 45: "Thus says the Lord to Cyrus, His anointed, whose right hand I have held—to subdue nations before him and to loosen the loins of kings, to open doors before him so that the gates will not be shut: I will go before you and make the crooked places straight; I will break in pieces the gates of bronze and shatter the bars of iron. And I will give you the treasures of darkness and hidden riches of secret places so that you may know that I, the Lord, who calls you by your name, am the God of Israel. For Jacob My servant's sake and Israel My chosen one, I have even called you by your name; I have named you, though you have not known Me'" (Is. 45:1-4).

Notice the beginning and the end of this passage. First, Cyrus, a non-Israelite king, is called God's anointed, a term elsewhere only used for Israelite leaders. Second, Cyrus, although called by the God of Israel, doesn't actually know the God of Israel. Instead, like the vast majority of people in the ancient world, he worshipped different deities in the form of idols.

In fulfillment of this prophecy, the Scriptures record how Cyrus made this decree to the Jewish people living in Babylon, where they had been taken in exile: "The LORD [meaning Yahweh] God of heaven has given me all the kingdoms of the earth, and He has commanded me to build for Him a house at Jerusalem, which is in Judah. Whoever is among you of all His people, may the LORD [Yahweh] his God be with him. Let him go up" (2 Chr. 36:23).

So a pagan king encouraged the Jewish people to return to their homeland and rebuild their temple, also helping to finance the endeavor.

But Cyrus did not only do this for the people of Israel.

This became a standard Persian policy, allowing exiles to return to their homelands and rebuild their temples as subjects of the Persian empire.

We know this from the famous Cyrus Cylinder that was discovered in 1879. There, we read that Marduk, the chief god of the Babylonian pantheon and called "the king of the gods" in the text, "took the hand of Cyrus ... and called him by his name, proclaiming him aloud for the kingship over all of everything."

We also read in the text that Cyrus restored the various idol temples in his empire, which gives further confirmation to the biblical account.

So, here, it is Marduk who is given credit for the reign of Cyrus. In the Bible, it is Yahweh, the God of Israel and the only true God, who takes the credit. Obviously, Cyrus did not know Him, just as Isaiah said.

Could Donald Trump, then, be a modern-day Cyrus? Could it be that Trump, like Cyrus, clearly does not know the Lord in a real and personal way but could still be used by God to accomplish His purposes?

As the saying goes, let God be God, meaning, it's up to Him to do what He wants to do. Only He can answer this question for sure.

Or, from a more secular perspective, only time will tell.

What's clear, though, is that God did not raise up an idol-worshipping king to rule the nation of Israel. That would have been a curse rather than a blessing.

In contrast, Christians are talking about God raising up Trump to lead America, which would be very different than Cyrus being used to help the exiles return to Jerusalem and rebuild it.

That doesn't mean, of course, that Trump could not be a Cyrus-type of figure. It simply means that the parallel breaks down when applied.

But there's another possibility to consider.

There was another ancient king named Nebuchadnezzar, the Babylonian leader who, decades before Cyrus became king, led his armies to destroy Jerusalem, burn down the temple and send the Jewish people into exile in 586 B.C.

He too was an idol worshipper, yet shockingly, Yahweh called him "My servant," stating plainly, "I will send and take all the families of the north, says the Lord, and Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon, My servant, and will bring them against this land [meaning Judah] and its inhabitants, and against all these surrounding nations; I will utterly destroy them, and make them an astonishment, a hissing, and perpetual desolations" (Jer. 25:9; see also 27:6; 43:10).

So Cyrus was anointed by God to restore the Jewish people from captivity and to rebuild Jerusalem after Nebuchadnezzar, as a vessel of divine judgment, was called by God to send the Jewish people into exile and to destroy Jerusalem.

Two pagan kings, one raised up to bring judgment and the other raised up to bring restoration.

Is Donald Trump a Cyrus or a Nebuchadnezzar, if either?

Let God be God, and only time will tell.

But while we wait and watch and vote and act, let's not forget to pray: God, have mercy on America!

The one thing of which we are sure is that this is a very critical season in the history of our nation.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: New York; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016election; cyrusthegreat; election2016; endtimes; koresh; messiahmania; moderndaycyrus; newyork; persianempire; repositorytrump; shouldbinrelgion4m; tedcruz; texas; trump
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To: Lazamataz

Anyhow, I have said if I can’t likk ‘em I jern ‘em. It’s a way to get a jerb after all.


141 posted on 03/18/2016 12:17:15 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
U TUK MEH JERB!
142 posted on 03/18/2016 12:18:35 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I'm an Islamophobe??? Well, good. When it comes to Islam, there's plenty to Phobe about.)
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To: Lazamataz

Oh wah.

You might be glad that they were there as place holders, should the ship of America rise on a new rising tide and it become possible for “Er Jerbs” to even come back.

In the meantime, get mad at the idiots who are letting the water out of the ocean.


143 posted on 03/18/2016 12:18:49 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Lazamataz

Hey if you’d quit wailing I’d even give you a good reference at one of these jernts.


144 posted on 03/18/2016 12:19:31 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

145 posted on 03/18/2016 12:21:31 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I'm an Islamophobe??? Well, good. When it comes to Islam, there's plenty to Phobe about.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

146 posted on 03/18/2016 12:23:08 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I'm an Islamophobe??? Well, good. When it comes to Islam, there's plenty to Phobe about.)
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To: Lazamataz
Rubio has Gangof8grene and everybody knows it.

Anyway, Rubio stole the line. It's been around a long time and it will be here as along as Trump is.

Trump hates it: Short Fingered Vulgarian

147 posted on 03/18/2016 12:39:05 PM PDT by Theophilus (Always vote. Always vote your conscience. God wins every election.)
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To: Theophilus

His fingers gave up length so he could have a 11” Johnson.


148 posted on 03/18/2016 12:41:38 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I'm an Islamophobe??? Well, good. When it comes to Islam, there's plenty to Phobe about.)
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To: Lazamataz
That's what she said.

...but she probably didn't want to get sued.

149 posted on 03/18/2016 12:58:55 PM PDT by Theophilus (Always vote. Always vote your conscience. God wins every election.)
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To: Lazamataz

R JRBZ had, for all intents and purposes, ceased to exist and were waiting for the coroner.

I don’t like it either. If the dotcom boom had miraculously kept up I’d be looking at eight figure (well okay, including the decimal point) pay now.

I also wouldn’t have had to trek to three different states.

But it’s an ill wind that blows no good.


150 posted on 03/18/2016 4:49:24 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Lazamataz; HiTech RedNeck

Well, Laz, you both have special standing with me as I have considerable respect for your opinions. I don’t wish POing on anyone.

Even those of us who give careful thought, not just emotion, to our opinions can’t always agree.


151 posted on 03/18/2016 7:24:17 PM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (Ready for Teddy, Cruz that is.)
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To: 11th_VA
I have read every reply on this thread up to 151. We are a very amusing people. Not in a negative way mind you, but amusing none the less.
152 posted on 03/18/2016 7:58:14 PM PDT by Lee Enfield (I identify as rich, cut me a check.)
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To: Lazamataz

You now just succeed in being mildly annoying if not (more often) drolly amusing.


153 posted on 03/18/2016 8:01:51 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: 11th_VA
Donald Trump is Donald Trump.

No more, no less.

Not Hitler, not Reagen, not Cyrus, not Nebuchadnezzar, not George Washington, not Pol Pot.

He is himself.

The moment you start hanging the "Another __________" label on the guy you lose sight of who he is and start seeing things that are not there.

154 posted on 03/18/2016 8:05:52 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Ann Archy
God will NOT save this country until Mothers stop KILLING THEIR CHILDREN!!

So He never has and never will.

Abortion has been part of humanity as far back as we have records.

It is like saying that God will not save this country until Fathers stop HAVING AFFAIRS!!

Now if you want to say until we withdrawal our public approval of such actions then you may have a case.

155 posted on 03/18/2016 8:14:03 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: EveningStar; BillyBoy; sickoflibs

Here are some my ideas.

King Henry VIII of England
King Aerys II Targaryen (A Song of Ice and Fire)
Sophia Petrillo (”Golden Girls”, played by Estelle Getty)
King Louis XIV of France
Bonzo (”Bedtime for Bonzo”)
Fearless Leader (”The Rocky and Bullwinkle Show”)
Narcissus of Thespiae
Roman Emperor Nero
The Duke of New York A-#1 (”Escape from New York”)


156 posted on 03/18/2016 8:43:32 PM PDT by Impy (The night is dark and full of terrors.)
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To: Theophilus

yes. not the end justifies the means but god uses us all where are are. i like the analogy. if he is the tool then so be it.


157 posted on 03/18/2016 10:43:24 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: kvanbrunt2
God did not choose Samson because he was strong. Samson was strong because God chose him and the Holy Spirit "came upon him". The Spirit of the Lord occupied a sanctified Nazerite, dedicated from birth, not a pagan muscle man.

Trump is not strong and he's not sanctified. Sure God may make him President and use him but that's not a reason to vote for him.

158 posted on 03/19/2016 12:09:52 AM PDT by Theophilus (Always vote. Always vote your conscience. God wins every election.)
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To: Theophilus

Trump is not strong and he’s not sanctified. Sure God may make him President and use him but that’s not a reason to vote for him.>>>I think god can use whomever he wants. and as far as sanctification of trump is concerned, Are you judging him? some christian ministers with whom he has had contact for the last ten years speak differently. one minister i know did drugs after he was saved. didn’t realize it was wrong at the time. gradually he just stopped doing em as he got closer to god. and trump is not running for the office of minister in chief.


159 posted on 03/19/2016 10:56:41 AM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: kvanbrunt2
"Sanctified" means set apart or holy. God gave Samson's parents specific instructions when he was born to sanctify him as a judge in Israel.

My point is that Trump is not a Samson.

A different subject: Can you tell if a person is a Christian without judging them?

160 posted on 03/19/2016 12:41:35 PM PDT by Theophilus (Always vote. Always vote your conscience. God wins every election.)
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