Posted on 03/13/2016 11:10:16 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
(トランプ氏の天安門事件「暴動」発言 謝罪求める声)
(“Voices Now Demanding Apology from Trump Who Calls Tienanmen Massacre a “Riot”)
(Translation from the original Japanese by FReeper AmericanInTokyo):
”In the most recent TV debate between candidates for the Republican nomination for President in the USA, Mr. Trump referred to it as a “riot” (boudou: 暴動) when Chinese students stood up in Tienanmen Square and requested freedom, in Beijing, China in 1989. Real estate magnate Trump was answering a question from the moderator in the March 10 debate in Miami, with respect to the suppression of Chinese university students. They were only pleading for freedom but were by way of armed force crushed by the Chinese Communist Party in Tienanmen Square in June 1989, resulting in many deaths, the “Tienanmen Massacre.”
In that reply, Trump said that he “did not support the government’s action” but stated that “a strong government was able to put down the ‘riot’ (sic) with strength. That shows you the power of strength.”
Because Trump in his response termed the uprising of the students in requesting democratization in China as a "riot", a Chinese dissident who lives in exile in the USA has issued a protest on Saturday.
“For many Chinese, it is simply an unacceptable statement by Trump. It is an insult to those who stood up to oppose the Communist Party of China but were crushed, dissident and democracy leader Dr. Wei Jingsheng （魏京生） stated. He called on Mr. Trump to apologize for it.
In addition, another former Tienanmen student survivor and Chinese dissident exiled in the USA Dr. Yang Jianli（楊建利） (and others) also have come forward and issued a statement demanding an apology from Donald Trump. “His statement takes a lot of nerve. The attitude towards (the use of) power held to by Trump is a contradiction of the values of the United States. This is totally unbefitting and unbecoming of an American president,” his statement read, as voices increasingly demanded Mr. Trump’s apology over his statement.” END OF TRANSLATION
You are correct but partially, however. His talk continued. Immediately after that he termed the students as a “riot”. Clearly. This is what the democracy activists who fled China are very angry about.
Thanks for addressing the inaccuracy.
>> Trump’s sentiment; it’s admiring ...
Recognition isn’t necessarily a form of admiration.
Saw the origin transcript from Miami just now. He in fact termed it a “riot.” It can be substantiated.
F ‘the voices ‘
Trump supporters have become very good at translating what Trump really said... Never mind his actual words...
The apology wouldn’t be to the communist Chinese but to the opponents of the communist Chinese. There IS a difference.
Ya, f’ those people who were murdered in a peaceful demonstration that Trump said were participating in a “riot”... Trump trumps all reason it seems. No matter how stupid something he says is, we can depend on people like you to defend it no matter what.
So much for your regard for prominent Chinese (anti-govt) dissidents who opposed the Party and are exiled in the USA after their failed attempts at demcrzcy that led to deaths upward of 1,00 in the streets of Beijing for freedom. Yeah. I guess. “ F’em, right?” Thanks for clarifying the side you are on,
:-). You are a good person.
Folks might also be interested in this thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3402841/posts
Wait, this is from a Japanese source [that had nothing to do with Nanking, etc], wanting an apology from Trump to the Chinese dissidents [anticommunists] he inappropriately labeled as 'rioters' while he openly admired the power the communist party used to crush a democratic protest? I seem to remember the communist government of China, wanting a few apologies from the post-imperial US constitution-based government of Japan established by US General MacArthur, referencing the actions of a wholly different pre-constitutional government of Japan based on imperialism, at Nanking, ref 731, etc... because the communist party of China wants to use the idea of collective guilt to soil the reputation of a US ally... and not because the Communist Party of China which killed millions of people itself... cares one whit about the Chinese that were brutally murdered in Nanking.
Things look a lot different when you add information.
With the history of the Cultural Revolution, most Chinese are not sympathetic to the students in Tianamen Square. NOVA has a very good documentary on the event.
With the history of the Cultural Revolution, most Chinese are not sympathetic to the students in Tianamen Square. NOVA has a very good documentary on the event.
The response of the US gov't at that time? Most favored nation status for China. Trump wants a tariff against Chinese goods to cut the 100s of billions in trade deficit. No word about that from these dissidents? Didn't think so.
Thank you!
Oh, so everyone here is supposed to label articles they post according to the Trump faction's Trumpsoc threat level board- all articles not reinforcing your orthodoxy are ungood and to be described as "crap" so you can be warned ahead of time to crimestop before clicking on the link and committing a thoughtcrime. Well then, I suppose you'd also want pro-Trump articles or transcripts of Trump's duckspeak to be graced with a positive designation such as "doubleplusgood" so you can avoid the emotional distress of accidentally reading unapproved material?
Oh goodie, a trade war. That’ll fix things right up.
Trump should apologize or “clarify” his statement.
He should not have had to...he said clearly the Chinese government was vicious. People who are not interested in truth, but in propaganda distorted what Trump said by focusing on the word strong and misapplying it as if Trumo used it in a positive sense, which he clearly did not. Next time you try to drink very strong tea or coffee think about it. Or next time you get a whiff of the strong smell of rotting fish.
He said the people they murdered were rioters.
That’s the simple truth.
They were peaceful - and were crushed literally.
And so yes, the survivors and their relatives may just take issue with that statement.
The rot smell is your mindless following of a man with a loose cannon mouth.
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