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Vermont Gov. on Gun Control: ‘You Need a 50-State Solution... We’re Not Living(T)
cnsnews.com ^ | 2/22/2016 | Jose R. Gonzalez

Posted on 02/23/2016 7:08:33 AM PST by rktman

"We're not living in the Middle Ages," Vermont Gov. Peter Shumlin said Friday as he called for national gun control legislation.

"My view on gun legislation is this: You will not solve this problem state by state. You need a 50-state solution, and we better come up with one fast," Shumlin said last week at Politico's Sixth Annual State Solutions Conference [1] at the Microsoft Innovation and Policy Center in Washington, D.C.

Shumlin pushed for a "50-state solution" despite coming from a rural state where guns are commonly used for hunting.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Philosophy; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; guncontrol; gungrabbers; petershumlin; rkba; secondamendment; vt
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To: rktman
I don't need some syrup-sippin’ metrosexual figuring out what kinda gun laws the rest of the country needs.
21 posted on 02/23/2016 7:32:00 AM PST by skimbell
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To: Gaffer

Bring your whole state for all I care, we have more than enough patriots and ammo.


22 posted on 02/23/2016 7:33:24 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: rktman

Come and take mine, Governor. MILLIONS OF US WILL NOT COMPLY, and you will have mass death on your hands.


23 posted on 02/23/2016 7:33:42 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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To: ealgeone

Unfortunately, with the death of Scalia the second amendment is in trouble.


24 posted on 02/23/2016 7:34:09 AM PST by Texas Patriot61 (Gun control is being able to hit your target.)
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To: rktman

The MIDDLE AGES? Nope. They did not have good guns like we
got now.


25 posted on 02/23/2016 7:34:22 AM PST by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net

Obviously the new state motto of Vermont is “Live on Your Knees or Die.”

Must be something in the maple sap...


26 posted on 02/23/2016 7:36:29 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: rktman
Memo To Peter Shumlin:

Click the Pic

27 posted on 02/23/2016 7:36:45 AM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! I reallyRead it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: rktman
I have an idea that should please everyone.

Make using a gun for illegal violence or in connection with committing a felony a national crime, but preserve legal gun use and ownership as a protected right. That way there will be laws to stop the bad guys, and protected rights for the good guys to stop the bad guys when the police are not present.

The idea is really genius if you think about it!

28 posted on 02/23/2016 7:42:12 AM PST by DaveyB (Live free or die!)
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To: backwoods-engineer

A million didn’t comply in NY. Imagine the compliance in a red state.


29 posted on 02/23/2016 7:42:15 AM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: Texas Patriot61

Unfortunately, with the death of Scalia the second amendment is in trouble.

why would the death of a Supreme court justice affect a constitutional amendment...?


30 posted on 02/23/2016 7:45:10 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: NorthMountain

I often wonder “why” people think what they do.

The reasons for keeping the 2nd amendment are as valid now as they were then. As some might, if rudely put it: because I can’t put a policeman in my pocket. Because when seconds count, police are but minutes away. Not to mention that police might not always be helpful in a situation if arriving timely because they don’t know everything. That’s how dogs and innocent victims get shot. They tend to get shot far less often by people who already know about those factors.

I mention police because that seems to be the only actual reason proffered. The problem is, police cannot be, and never have been, what airy fairy illiberal “liberal” government nannies have wanted them to be.

I do think that “well training” (well regulated in the charming olde englishe) helps lend credibility to the 2nd amendment’s premise, and those who do it, also do. There’s something to be said for chucking a revolver into a drawer so it’s there if needed and remembered years later, but mishaps and mistakes associated with things like this probably produce the largest countercase for the 2nd amendment. No, the authors knew everything about what they were writing and were assuming that those who wanted the amendment would also be “well trained.” Giving that up gives up the rationale for having asked for it.


31 posted on 02/23/2016 7:48:13 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: rktman

A good start for a fifty state solution would be to get rid of most dem/rats, state and federal.


32 posted on 02/23/2016 7:49:38 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: backwoods-engineer

and you will have mass death on your hands.

Yeah great idea...fire on Federal troops; what could possibly go wrong...?


33 posted on 02/23/2016 7:50:51 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: rktman

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/381136/vermont-safe-and-happy-and-armed-teeth-charles-c-w-cooke

National Review

An interesting little artifact from Prison Policy Initiative, which reports that the state with the lowest incarceration rate in the country is Vermont. This should probably not be surprising. Vermont, per the Death Penalty Initiative, also consistently has either the lowest or second-lowest number of murders in the country. And FBI statistics show that the state routinely ranks as one of the five safest. In 2012, there were eight murders there — just two of which involved firearms.

What does Baltimore, Detroit, DC, Chicago and others have that Vermont does not?


34 posted on 02/23/2016 7:51:25 AM PST by umgud
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To: Gamecock

And the Feds should enforce on all 50 states Shall-Issue CCP / Castle Doctrine / Stand Your Ground.
That is probably the only instance where I’d support a “one size fits all” Fed solution.


35 posted on 02/23/2016 7:52:59 AM PST by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: skimbell

So serve um up some Jack Daniels and see if he’s more pliable.


36 posted on 02/23/2016 7:53:29 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: umgud

What do they have? Fantasy disguised as policy.


37 posted on 02/23/2016 7:54:19 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: rktman

Dear FedGov,

Please ban guns in all 50[57?] states as I dare not come out for a ban in VT, a constitutional carry state, lest I be turned out of office. If you ban guns in VT then maybe I won’t get blamed.

Sincerely,
[soon to be former] Gov. Shumlin


38 posted on 02/23/2016 7:54:31 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: NorthMountain

I meant, proffered by the airy fairies etc. Sorry about the ambiguous words. I can go on a jag and forget to edit for total sense.


39 posted on 02/23/2016 7:59:41 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: rktman
A Final 50-State Solution, right?

Jawohl.

40 posted on 02/23/2016 7:59:56 AM PST by Dr.Deth
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